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Sati Velociraptor


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melissa17b Velociraptor


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I have been measured recently at 172 and 165. Both times there were major variations between test subsections. I found the part where you have to put the pictures in order to form a story difficult, and didn't do particularly well. However, on the part where you remember a string of digits and recite them backwards and forwards, I easily made it up to 25, where the test administrator stopped. Individual subsections ranged from around 100 to a bit over 200.
I am sure I would fare quite poorly on a standardised measure of emotional intelligence, and probably mediocre at best on overall functioning. |
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Ecriminist Emu Egg


Joined: Sep 19, 2009 Age: 17 Posts: 1
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Posted: Sat Sep 19, 2009 7:42 pm Post subject: Umm. |
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| On a rather informal test I scored a 145, although that's probably inaccurate. |
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Tim_Tex Bunnies!!!


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Welcome to WP, Ecriminist!
I got 126 when I took it. _________________ Sometimes I feel very sorry for the Coyote. Sometimes I wish he'd catch him.
If he caught him, there wouldn't be any more Road Runner. You wouldn't like that, would you? |
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oxboy1997 Hummingbird


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Posted: Mon Sep 21, 2009 12:27 pm Post subject: |
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Somebody recently pointed out to me that if you take the top 2% of students in China, that number of people is equivalent to the whole student population of the UK. Similarly, the top 7-8% of people in India equate to that same number of students.
It has to do with the whole populations - I wish I had noted down the chapter and verse for it and would be interested if anybody knows where the info came from.
Food for thought indeed! |
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b9 whatever..


Joined: Aug 15, 2008 Posts: 2068 Location: australia
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Posted: Mon Sep 21, 2009 1:27 pm Post subject: |
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without consideration to the structure of questions in IQ tests, i wonder how "average mental age" scores are defined.
IQ is (mental age / chronological age) x 100.
if you are ten and you have the mental age of a 20 year old, then you have an IQ of 200 apparently.
if you have an IQ of 300, then you have the mental age of a 30 year old?
a 30 year old person can not solve problems (of a spontaneously presented nature) any better than a 20 year old, so how is the baseline "average ability" for an x year old (above 20) assessed?. surely not in a continously incremental improvement in actual intelligence with age.
if a 10 year old has an "iq" of 950, then they have the mental age of a 95 year old which would not be anything to be too happy about.
i think the present medical notion of "IQ" is a limited way of assessing young childrens capacities and is not really applicable to extreme intelligence or to people who are over 10 years old. |
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melissa17b Velociraptor


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| b9 wrote: | without consideration to the structure of questions in IQ tests, i wonder how "average mental age" scores are defined.
IQ is (mental age / chronological age) x 100.
if you are ten and you have the mental age of a 20 year old, then you have an IQ of 200 apparently.
if you have an IQ of 300, then you have the mental age of a 30 year old?
a 30 year old person can not solve problems (of a spontaneously presented nature) any better than a 20 year old, so how is the baseline "average ability" for an x year old (above 20) assessed?. surely not in a continously incremental improvement in actual intelligence with age.
if a 10 year old has an "iq" of 950, then they have the mental age of a 95 year old which would not be anything to be too happy about.
i think the present medical notion of "IQ" is a limited way of assessing young childrens capacities and is not really applicable to extreme intelligence or to people who are over 10 years old. |
When the term "intelligence quotient" first came into use, it was defined as you describe - a quotient of effective to actual age - and was only applicable to children, since, as you point out, the concept of "mental age" is devoid of meaning past the developmental years.
Today, the term "IQ" refers to any of a number of standardised tests with several important statistical properties. Most significant is that when administered to a large random sample reflecting the entire population, and assuming normally distributed results, the results are calibrated so that mean is 100 and the standard deviation is 15 (16 on some older tests). Thus, an IQ of 115 no longer means performing at a level of someone 15% older; instead, it means performing at a level higher than about 84% of the overall population. Similarly, an IQ of 160, +4 standard deviations, means a level occurring in about 1 in every 30,000 people. An IQ of 175 occurs in 1 in almost 3.5 million people. As the assumption of normality likely breaks down at these extremes, it is difficult to accurately measure IQ when very high or very low, even if the instruments were infallible, which they are anything but.
Because IQ is essentially a way of expressing a percentile, if human intelligence on average tended to increase over time, through natural selection, improving health and nutrition, or whatever reason, an individual could expect to see her IQ steadily go down over time, even though her actual intelligence has not changed, since IQ is measured relative to the current population average.
Conceivably, any type of performance test carefully calibrated to 100/15 could be presented as an "IQ", if one does not mind stretching the term a little bit. |
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RandomKid Phoenix


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Posted: Mon Sep 21, 2009 3:06 pm Post subject: |
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95. However the evualator doesnt think the test shows my true intelligence. She said the test she gives doesnt work well with kids on the spectrum _________________ Lyssa
14 y/o with PDD-NOS/AS,OCD,ADD
Purple belt in TKD. |
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budgenator Blue Jay


Joined: Aug 03, 2009 Age: 55 Posts: 98 Location: SE Michigan
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Posted: Tue Sep 22, 2009 12:38 am Post subject: never took an actual IQ test |
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| my AFQT was 96th percentile, ASVAB GT 154, GM 155, EL 145, CL 120 |
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ShogunSalute Yellow-bellied Woodpecker


Joined: Sep 17, 2009 Posts: 70
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Posted: Tue Sep 22, 2009 5:08 am Post subject: |
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| so many geniuses. how is it you haven't all come together and cured cancer? |
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DaWalker Pro Caution


Joined: Jul 12, 2009 Posts: 5103
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Posted: Tue Sep 22, 2009 3:08 pm Post subject: |
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| ShogunSalute wrote: | | so many geniuses. how is it you haven't all come together and cured cancer? |
Red tape at the Patent Office
Appears to stem from the semantics and clarification deportment.
Department of Consequential Coincidences and Conspiracy is at DEFCON 1. |
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ShogunSalute Yellow-bellied Woodpecker


Joined: Sep 17, 2009 Posts: 70
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Posted: Tue Sep 22, 2009 8:29 pm Post subject: |
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just think it's funny that there is a myth that most people with asperger's have high IQs, but actual studies show this not be true (IQ's are usually a bit below, normal, or a little bit above normal). but people seem to be going with the myth. this is another reason people get attached to the idea of AS, they think it makes them smart. well sorry, but that just isn't true. and this is why i want to escape SD types, you never know if it's real or exaggeration. and as there is no way you all have your claimed IQs there is deception here.
or unless this forum just somehow has succeeded in achieving a one in a million possibility with all these high aspie IQs. i doubt it. |
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DaWalker Pro Caution


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Posted: Tue Sep 22, 2009 8:47 pm Post subject: |
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Really...
Aspie Igtelligence..
Doubt seams to be your directive. |
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ShogunSalute Yellow-bellied Woodpecker


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Posted: Tue Sep 22, 2009 9:06 pm Post subject: |
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| it is a shame there is no substance to your defensiveness. (without substance i can not understand you) |
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DaWalker Pro Caution


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Posted: Tue Sep 22, 2009 10:10 pm Post subject: |
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Radical
Assumption,
Defensiveness. |
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