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Thagomizer
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Troy had well-staged battle scenes, but what annoyed me was the incredibly pompous dialogue and postmodern take on the Illiad. In Greek myth the characters are larger than life and have no psychology, and the existence of the gods is a given. Cutting these elements out and reducing the story to the cliches of the action movie genre does not make the film more "mature" or "realistic". When is Hollywood going to realize this? Troy commited the same crime that "King Arthur" did, except the latter was even more self-important about it.
If I were to direct a movie about the Greco-Roman world, it wouldn't be in Enlgish. The point in doing this would be to make the audience feel as if they've been transported into another time period, with characters and situations alien to them, and if we really want to be honest about it, it's because they have.
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ilikedragons
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| Posted: Sun Dec 18, 2005 11:08 pm Post subject: |
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| But how could anyone watch it if they dont speak Greek? |
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psych
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| Posted: Sun Dec 18, 2005 11:43 pm Post subject: |
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it'd be dubbed in english obviously!
seriously though, subtitling classic epics might be quite effective. Another benefit would be the possibility of casting actors that matched the profile of the relevant cultures ethnicity.
Ill be looking forward to season 2 of HBO Rome much more than whatever classic-era films get remade next year. There was a scene at the end of season one that easily stood up to 'gladiator', and in some ways even managed to outshine it. |
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mjs82
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| AbominableSnoCone wrote: | | Oh, well on its own I guess its alright. Gladiator is still the best epic Greek/Roman movie though. |
Spartacus, Quo Vadis and Ben Hur too much before your time? 
The use of British accents in sword and sandal epics is to ellicit a class structure of the Empire and the Brits had one of the last really big ones. Star Wars & LOTR are other good examples where the English accent is used for characteristic effects. There are countless genre books that essay this. Alot of producers and some directors see foreign languages as a potential box office limitation. Though I think Mel Gibson did prove that wrong to some degree. Apocalypto will be the big test.
Troy to me was a flop because I had seen it all before and it was done better elsewhere.
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