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FreeSpirit2000
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 Posted: Sat Sep 12, 2009 2:51 am Post subject: Is It Possible For Aspies To Be Financially Wealthy? |
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| I am just curious, is it possible for Aspies to ever become financially wealthy or is it harder? Because when I get out of college, i want to score a Wall Street Job (Trading) and i have the personality where I get along well with my freinds and peers, quiet at school, but sometimes i have more trouble getting along with my parents. I feel very high financial freedom is important because i don't want to stress myself with living paycheck to paycheck every year driving a 10 year old Camry or Accord with a Dent On The Side and worry about too much financial obligations. Plus I doubt i am going to get married too because I am 20 and I have never had a serious relationship in my life. So are there any Aspies out there making $500,000+/yearly or am I just being too unrealistic due to being an Aspie? You guys give me some of your opinions about this topic. |
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EggDownUnder
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| Posted: Sat Sep 12, 2009 3:37 am Post subject: |
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Well you sound motivated enough, and that will get you a long way. Sure there can be rich Aspies, we play lotto like everyone else! 
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FreeSpirit2000
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| Posted: Sat Sep 12, 2009 3:57 am Post subject: |
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| EggDownUnder wrote: | | Well you sound motivated enough, and that will get you a long way. Sure there can be rich Aspies, we play lotto like everyone else! |
But the thing is, when it comes to working and getting things done, i don't like having a "do this do that" attitude, i don't like people who nag too much, i don't like it when people force help on me. I prefer people to ask for me if i need help and I will say no nicely and I prefer people to give me directions in a polite manner and patiently be helpful. This is my personality. I like to be given instruction in a calm patient manner but i don't like being very overly rushed because i get easily annoyed by pushy attitudes, so do you think working in this field would be too harsh for someone with a personality like mine? |
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EggDownUnder
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| Posted: Sat Sep 12, 2009 4:20 am Post subject: |
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| FreeSpirit2000 wrote: | | so do you think working in this field would be too harsh for someone with a personality like mine? |
can't answer that one, sorry. I'm not into the stock market, Wall st etc.
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melissa17b
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| Posted: Sat Sep 12, 2009 5:17 am Post subject: |
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Melissa’s Guide to Workplace Success for Autistic People
1. Become very good at something. Not just kind of good, but really good. Know your subject matter inside and out. Focus on learning your skill/subject as you would a special interest; ideally, the subject should be, or become, your special interest. Choose a field where you can immerse yourself day and night. Ideally, become very good at two related things, and specialise in bringing these two disciplines together.
2. Know yourself, your limitations and how you work. If you are inertial, flexible hours are essential, and you should establish a working environment where interruptions will not occur, or shift your hours to ensure a “protected period” each day. If you need structure, establish a schedule and stick to it.
3. Be a genuine part of a team. Be aware that it is very difficult to succeed in business without support from other people. Choose a team that understands what you can offer, understands what you can and cannot do, and then commit yourself entirely to the success of the team. Ideally, your team will be composed of people that are also unconventional in some way, as they are much more likely to understand your particular way of working. As autistic people tend to have unbalanced profiles of abilities, recognise that there will be things that others are better able to do, and defer to other team members in these areas.
4. Build a close rapport with at least one person. Your goal should be the kind of relationship where each of you would trust your life to the other. Be able to talk and listen about anything. Accept that you will probably not understand some of the interactions, and trust any advice you are given.
5. Always be polite, even in difficult situations. You do not have to fake being normal; you simply need to care enough about other people to learn basic interpersonal conduct. If you cannot “read” people and situations, at least learn basic meeting and greeting and learn what people seem to like and dislike. Listen a lot and say little, unless you are comfortable that you will add to the conversation.
6. Always have the utmost integrity. Leave no question as to your commitment to your team. Conduct yourself in such a way that the intent of anything you say or do is never in question.
7. Always endeavour to elevate those around you. Never put people down, through words or actions. Make people want to work with you. Give people that work with you every opportunity to learn and grow professionally. Never hold anybody back.
8. Be loyal. Leave no doubt that you are committed to the mutual success of everyone involved. Be prepared to put their needs ahead of yours.
9. Be humble. Build your skills to a point where you are difficult if not impossible to replace, but then use those skills to the advantage of your entire team, not just yourself. Never flaunt your abilities – people will respect them much more if you simply do what is in everybody’s collective best interest. Make people like having you on their team. |
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FreeSpirit2000
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| Posted: Sat Sep 12, 2009 5:57 am Post subject: |
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| melissa17b wrote: | Melissa’s Guide to Workplace Success for Autistic People
1. Become very good at something. Not just kind of good, but really good. Know your subject matter inside and out. Focus on learning your skill/subject as you would a special interest; ideally, the subject should be, or become, your special interest. Choose a field where you can immerse yourself day and night. Ideally, become very good at two related things, and specialise in bringing these two disciplines together.
2. Know yourself, your limitations and how you work. If you are inertial, flexible hours are essential, and you should establish a working environment where interruptions will not occur, or shift your hours to ensure a “protected period” each day. If you need structure, establish a schedule and stick to it.
3. Be a genuine part of a team. Be aware that it is very difficult to succeed in business without support from other people. Choose a team that understands what you can offer, understands what you can and cannot do, and then commit yourself entirely to the success of the team. Ideally, your team will be composed of people that are also unconventional in some way, as they are much more likely to understand your particular way of working. As autistic people tend to have unbalanced profiles of abilities, recognise that there will be things that others are better able to do, and defer to other team members in these areas.
4. Build a close rapport with at least one person. Your goal should be the kind of relationship where each of you would trust your life to the other. Be able to talk and listen about anything. Accept that you will probably not understand some of the interactions, and trust any advice you are given.
5. Always be polite, even in difficult situations. You do not have to fake being normal; you simply need to care enough about other people to learn basic interpersonal conduct. If you cannot “read” people and situations, at least learn basic meeting and greeting and learn what people seem to like and dislike. Listen a lot and say little, unless you are comfortable that you will add to the conversation.
6. Always have the utmost integrity. Leave no question as to your commitment to your team. Conduct yourself in such a way that the intent of anything you say or do is never in question.
7. Always endeavour to elevate those around you. Never put people down, through words or actions. Make people want to work with you. Give people that work with you every opportunity to learn and grow professionally. Never hold anybody back.
8. Be loyal. Leave no doubt that you are committed to the mutual success of everyone involved. Be prepared to put their needs ahead of yours.
9. Be humble. Build your skills to a point where you are difficult if not impossible to replace, but then use those skills to the advantage of your entire team, not just yourself. Never flaunt your abilities – people will respect them much more if you simply do what is in everybody’s collective best interest. Make people like having you on their team. |
You have lots of excellent points there. I am a very polite person in very difficult situations, it has been proven in the past because one teacher was intentionally pissing me so much to the point that i was going to explode, but i was being as patient as possible and just nicely answering things when i was communicating with that teacher. I'm sure many NT's would of either punched the living hell out of her or maybe just go tell the teacher that the teacher is pissing them off and then storm out of the classroom. I never put people down either and i always want the best for others and encourage my freinds when they are down as well. I work well with classmates but i won't work well with people with negative, naggy attitudes. I prefer to receive direction in a calm, relaxed, clear manner, not just, do-this, do-that in a very impatient way. |
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AspieFireMan
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Spokane_Girl
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| Posted: Sat Sep 12, 2009 10:23 am Post subject: |
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Of course. Look at Bill Gates.
But lot of people don't make $500,000 a year. Those are rich folks that do.
| Quote: | | But the thing is, when it comes to working and getting things done, i don't like having a "do this do that" attitude, i don't like people who nag too much, i don't like it when people force help on me. I prefer people to ask for me if i need help and I will say no nicely and I prefer people to give me directions in a polite manner and patiently be helpful. This is my personality. I like to be given instruction in a calm patient manner but i don't like being very overly rushed because i get easily annoyed by pushy attitudes, so do you think working in this field would be too harsh for someone with a personality like mine? |
That might make it harder for you to get a job. There were things I had to change about myself and work on to be able to hold down a job such as being flexible, being able to stop what I'm doing to do something else.
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cyberscan
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| Posted: Sat Sep 12, 2009 10:58 am Post subject: |
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Before the economy went down the tubes in 2001, I was making quite a good living being self employed. In 2007 when the telecommunications procong laws were changed again, that put me out of the ISP business. Fortunately, I have not goven up and am looking for opportunity. I will tell you that it is not very likely that you will become rich being an employee at a company unless you have some particulat specialty that is in very high demand that few others have.
If you want to become rich, find use your interests to do so. Study what you are interested in and learn everything you can. Find a way to provide products and or services related to your interests. If there is a market for your products and or services, and you can provide these at an affordable rate and make a profit, then you have won 99% of the battle to becoming rich. Chase your passions and not the dollar!
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Tim_Tex
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| Posted: Sat Sep 12, 2009 3:50 pm Post subject: |
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Absolutely!
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FreeSpirit2000
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| Posted: Sat Sep 12, 2009 4:24 pm Post subject: |
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| cyberscan wrote: | Before the economy went down the tubes in 2001, I was making quite a good living being self employed. In 2007 when the telecommunications procong laws were changed again, that put me out of the ISP business. Fortunately, I have not goven up and am looking for opportunity. I will tell you that it is not very likely that you will become rich being an employee at a company unless you have some particulat specialty that is in very high demand that few others have.
If you want to become rich, find use your interests to do so. Study what you are interested in and learn everything you can. Find a way to provide products and or services related to your interests. If there is a market for your products and or services, and you can provide these at an affordable rate and make a profit, then you have won 99% of the battle to becoming rich. Chase your passions and not the dollar! |
Definitely man, I want to do something for the passion, and the money at the same time. |
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blackomen
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| Quote: | | The City may be racist, sexist, homophobic, anti-semitic, whell-chairist, maybe even ageist but first and foremost, they are capitalist and if you can make them a fortune, all prejudices disappear, as if by magic. Don't be put off. |
What I like about Trading is that you're mainly judged by how much money you can make for the firm and how consistent you are with keeping the big $$$'s flowing in. Not to say that personality doesn't mean anything or that Aspies generally make good traders. |
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arielhawksquill
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| Posted: Thu Sep 17, 2009 8:54 am Post subject: |
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| Two words: Bill Gates. |
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starygrrl
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| Posted: Thu Sep 17, 2009 11:35 am Post subject: |
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First don't equate being rich with personal freedom. Two very different things. One does not need to make $500,000, or even $60,000 a year to get personal freedom. That comes through how one lives life.
Also don't equate financial success with happiness. Its not.
Also realize you will be pretty stable, as a single person, at around $40,000 in most places. While financial stability does lead to more happiness, realize being rich doesn't necessarily. People in this society overvalue money and often pursue it exclusively and ignore the things in life they enjoy. My partner once was a multimillionaire from the .com bubble. He lost alot of his money, but at the same time he is probably happier now than ever before. That is because he is doing things with his life that he enjoys.
I can say I turned my back on a high paying legal career because I wanted more balance in my life and do pursue work I enjoy. Money is not everything. Yes making a stable income is important, but realize what that stable income is...be realistic. I will tell you...Wall Street is very high stress and high stakes. You really need to look at yourself alot more deeply if you are only going after financial success. I have known alot of people to go after financial success only to end up miserable. |
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| Posted: Thu Sep 17, 2009 12:29 pm Post subject: |
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It comes down to how you manage what you make more than how much you make.
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