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PostPosted: Wed Feb 03, 2010 7:53 pm    Post subject: It's not my eyes, it's my brain.. Reply with quote

I just got back from the eye doctor today. I went to a nice eye doctor with more modern equipment. I have always had the issue of my left eye being extremely weak and constantly overcompensated for by my right eye.
Every time I have ever gone to the eye doctor, I was always given a different story...
Today the doctor said that my eyes are essentially healthy, but it is the neural pathway from my left eye to my brain that is the problem...and that is just the way my brain developed, most likely in the womb.

Can i count this as physical evidence of my neurological issues?...I mean, I have always had a hunch that there was a correlation....

Also...isn't the left eye controlled by the right hemisphere?
I am left-handed, which means that my right hemisphere is dominant...but my left eye is my very bad eye...so that would mean that my dominant hemisphere might be somewhat dysfunctional as is evidenced by my bad left eye....

Could that be the case?

I am trying (once again to wrap my mind around these issues with the imbalances in my brain.
I have brought up similar issues in the past.

Maybe my extremely imbalanced eyesight is just the tip of the iceburg and is evidence of an overall imbalance in my brain development...which would make sense considering the
functional difficulties I've had.
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PostPosted: Wed Feb 03, 2010 8:09 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Sounds like amblyopia, which I had as a child and had corrected. Here's an interesting link re: that and AS-

http://www.devdelay.org/newsletter/articles/html/234-strabismus-and-amblyopia.html
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PostPosted: Wed Feb 03, 2010 9:11 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Interesting..
That sounds exactly like what I have.

How did they correct yours? I am more familiar with the term "lazy eye"..I have a lazy eye plus astigmatism...according to my last exam....(astigmatism was not mentioned at today's exam)..just the fact that it seemed to be a neural pathway issue.
I didn't start wearing glasses until I was around 8, but apparently it was a problem I was born with, My parents didn't take it seriously when i complained about vision problems and then were surprised when they took me to the eye doctor to discover that I knew what I was talking about.
The eye patch thing did not work...by the time I went to a doctor who prescribed that method, I was probably too old for it to be effective...9 or 10...I went through a lot of pairs of glasses, because glasses never seemed very effective. They still don't...I just use them because of eye fatigue..they dont' really improve my ability to read very much, and are somewhat obstructing to my visual/spatial issues...because I rely so heavily on my peripheral vision.

I wish I had given more thought into looking into vision therapy before I plunked all the money down for my newest pair of glasses... Rolling Eyes I forgot to think about it in advance.

anywhoo...

I wonder what caused the amblyopia to begin with.
The article implies that it is caused by the strabmisus..but what causes the strabmisus to occur?
I had been of the impression that it was the other way around...my left eye is a bit oddly turned, but I sorta thought it was in response to the imbalance rather than the cause for some reason.

Off I go to further research strabmisus and autistic spectrum disorders...I don't think that lazy eye is the cause of all my issues..but it is definitely tied in...
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PostPosted: Wed Feb 03, 2010 9:17 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

http://www.mdjunction.com/forums/autism-discussions/general-support/113805-autism-strabismus-and-amblyopia-lazy-eye

Well..I found this article...which mentions the correlation between misperception of space and toe-walking...and I an a toe-walker...
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PostPosted: Wed Feb 03, 2010 9:24 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

My grandmother noticed in a family portrait that my right eye was too far off to the side. I had to do eye exercises that forced my eyes to cross. Back then they were assuming it was weak eye muscles. I was about 5 and I can remember my father holding a pen and bringing it closer to my nose and I was to keep my eyes on the pen. I was very surprised to learn that it was neurologically based. When I am very tired (exhausted tired) my right eye will roll around.
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PostPosted: Wed Feb 03, 2010 9:55 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

When I am very tired, my vision splits completely and my eyes are involuntarily forced to close. This happens with or without glasses, and reading, or watching movies or tv is extremely tiring...and will thusly cause my vision to split...

My eye is just slightly crooked., I am the only one who seems to notice it.

I have been told a slightly different story by every ophthalmologist I have seen, but I am pretty sure she said that the muscles in my bad eye were not weak..and I think in the past I was told that the muscles in my bad eye are actually strong from trying to focus...

This is another interesting thing I just happened across...

http://www.convergenceinsufficiency.org/

I relate to this one alot too
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PostPosted: Wed Feb 03, 2010 10:02 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

poopylungstuffing wrote:
http://www.mdjunction.com/forums/autism-discussions/general-support/113805-autism-strabismus-and-amblyopia-lazy-eye

Well..I found this article...which mentions the correlation between misperception of space and toe-walking...and I an a toe-walker...

I thought toe walking was a sensory thing. I rarely am barefoot and when I am the sensation of floor boards, blankets and the material on my couch is unbearable.
Interesting articles though.

I also wonder if I have bad spatial awareness because when I cross roads I can't judge between the distance of the car and the time that it takes to go past me, so I'm often almost being run over or take way too long to cross.
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PostPosted: Wed Feb 03, 2010 10:09 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

pensieve wrote:
poopylungstuffing wrote:
http://www.mdjunction.com/forums/autism-discussions/general-support/113805-autism-strabismus-and-amblyopia-lazy-eye

Well..I found this article...which mentions the correlation between misperception of space and toe-walking...and I an a toe-walker...

I thought toe walking was a sensory thing. I rarely am barefoot and when I am the sensation of floor boards, blankets and the material on my couch is unbearable.
Interesting articles though.

I also wonder if I have bad spatial awareness because when I cross roads I can't judge between the distance of the car and the time that it takes to go past me, so I'm often almost being run over or take way too long to cross.


I walk barefoot alot...i err in favor of my particular toe walking being due to spatial awareness problems. I also rely very heavily on my peripheral vision and often have my head tilted.

My peripheral vision dependence is another reason why I have always had such trouble with glasses. They mess with my peripheral vision, and i can't stand it.
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PostPosted: Wed Feb 03, 2010 10:12 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

..which leads to another article I strongly relate to...

http://www.suite101.com/article.cfm/autism_world/97315
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PostPosted: Wed Feb 03, 2010 10:29 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

poopylungstuffing wrote:
..which leads to another article I strongly relate to...

http://www.suite101.com/article.cfm/autism_world/97315

I relate to that.
When I make eye contact I get nervous or even scared of the person.
Today while talking to my job network member I didn't make eye contact but felt so much more comfortable.
The glasses do mess with my peripheral vision but if I didn't wear them my eyes would sting.
I should try this side on listening thing.
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PostPosted: Wed Feb 03, 2010 11:34 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

This is really interesting. I've always had trouble with my vision, but glasses never helped, either. It's been a mysterious problem -- I never felt like I was "seeing right," but couldn't place how.

The last eye check I had they just said "go buy some reading glasses," (I'd always end up with wildly different glasses prescriptions each time, and eventually gave up) which kind of helped with eye fatigue, but not with what seemed a more fundamental problem. Also have astigmatism in my left eye, and that eye does tend to drift (I can see it in a mirror, though it's not hugely obvious). I space out a lot, so there's a lot of double vision anyway, but it is also annoying to be a little tired and have to fight my vision separating.

Would never have thought it was connected to toe walking... chin

If I close my right eye it is harder to see out my left eye. I've always thought that was just the astigmatism. OTOH even when 'corrected' it was still hard to "see" out of that eye.

This would make sense of not being able to catch thrown objects, too, I suppose.

I'm right-handed, though (good/bad?). I think I read that lefties can have the brain functions distributed in really unpredictalbe ways, so it could that could be good or not, I guess.
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PostPosted: Wed Feb 03, 2010 11:52 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hah.

My dad had [pretty much corrected by glasses from a very early age] a vert out of kilter left eye.

Mine seems to be straight, but it was always a lot weaker than my right - I had glasses from 4th grade or so on. I started out left handded - I was "corrected", though I still do a lot with it - my family is shocked that I prefer to mouse on the left.

My mother - decidedly NT - wore glasses in adult life that were the opposite of my teen glasses - left strong, right weak.
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PostPosted: Wed Feb 03, 2010 11:58 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Apple_in_my_Eye wrote:


If I close my right eye it is harder to see out my left eye. I've always thought that was just the astigmatism. OTOH even when 'corrected' it was still hard to "see" out of that eye.

This would make sense of not being able to catch thrown objects, too, I suppose.

I'm right-handed, though (good/bad?). I think I read that lefties can have the brain functions distributed in really unpredictalbe ways, so it could that could be good or not, I guess.

If I close my right eye I can't see out of my left eye very well too. It's blurry.
I'm not sure if this is related but when I wink I can only wink with the left eye closed. I cannot close just my right eye. When I try this the left eye closes too.
I'm right handed too.
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PostPosted: Thu May 26, 2011 6:55 am    Post subject: Convergence in Aspies Reply with quote

My son has convergence & his eye surgeon - who specialises in such 'strabismus' - told us last visit that the statistics show 1 in 3 people with this are Aspie. Thought it may interest you ...
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