tangerine12
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 Posted: Fri Feb 12, 2010 2:23 pm Post subject: Why protest autism speaks? |
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| Seems legit to me. |
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KenG
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| Posted: Fri Feb 12, 2010 2:58 pm Post subject: Re: Why protest autism speaks? |
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| tangerine12 wrote: | | Why protest autism speaks? |
Because difference (autism) is not a disease.
Because every brain is beautiful.
Because we love neurodiversity.
Because we are not puzzles, we are people.
Because not being able to speak is not the same as having nothing to say.
Because nothing about us, without us.
Because we celebrate the beauty of the autism spectrum.
Because we all shine on, like the moon, like the starts, like the sun.
Because the sky is blue. (OK, maybe this one is not a good reason for protesting Autism Speaks, but all of the above are good enough)
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ASdogGeek
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| Posted: Fri Feb 12, 2010 4:55 pm Post subject: |
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Legit yes
they ligitemetly want to cure autiam- to make us all "normal"
they legitametly want to develope prnatal testing- so parents can abort thier unborn autistic children so not to burdden the parents 
They legitimatly and meaningfully only show the "bad side," and difficulties that autism can bring and children on thev "low unctioning end," - to strike fear into the hearts of the masses and solicate donations
they legitamatly DON"T have a single autistic on thier employement or board
they legitametly have called/staked war on autism 
they legitametly Don't want to hear anything about Nuero diversty.
They legitamatly try to mak autistics feel bad about who they are
they legitamatly DON"T want the world to see us as humans who are diffrent but humans with a HORRID disease
There are tones more but these should be enough
smply put
they want to elimanate autism and all autistic. They don't care what we have to say and thinks the world a better place without us.
I love the autism awareness ribbon but the autism speaks symbol inforiates me 
I think thier symbol very well depicts thier view on us.
We are all the same
nothing specail about us
we have nothing to offer.
if you look at autism as a puzzle and you use autism speaks to :put it togeather," all thier pieces make is a mess and an inaccurate picture.
yeah I know that was stupid sounding but I couldn't think how to word it.
Basicly all they have is edge pieces-all they show is one end of the spectrum-all they want is for the world to have is one view of autism.
Yes I know many autistics hate the ribbon but I love the ribon because it truely is unque an beutyful. To me each piece symbolizes how unque each person with autism is and that none of as are exactly the same but when you step back and look you see the true beuaty of the autism spectrum. Again I see things diffrent then most anybody. I don't look at it as "part of my brain are missing," or "I am a puzzle," Though I have to be honest being told I am puzzling is a complament to mee it means I make people use THIER brains 
besides our ribbon is the only ribbon that isn't shared with otherthings. We are aunque and I embrace it and I AM for Nuero Diversity  |
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| Posted: Sat Feb 13, 2010 12:40 am Post subject: |
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| What is legitimate about claiming to help a group by denigrating them and researching means of enacting genocide against them? |
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Moony
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| Posted: Sat Feb 13, 2010 1:43 am Post subject: |
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| ASdogGeek wrote: | Legit yes
They legitimately want to cure autism- to make us all "normal"
They legitimately want to develop prenatal testing- so parents can abort their unborn autistic children so not to burden the parents
They legitimately and meaningfully only show the "bad side," and difficulties that autism can bring and children on they "low functioning end," - to strike fear into the hearts of the masses and solicit donations
They legitimately don't have a single autistic on their employment or board
They legitimately have proclaimed a "war on autism"
They legitimately don't want to hear anything about neuro-diversity
They legitimately try to make autistics feel bad about who they are
They legitimately don't want the world to see us as humans who are different but humans with a HORRID disease
There are tons more but these should be enough
Simply put, they want to eliminate autism and all autistics. They don't care what we have to say, and they think the world would be a better place without us.
I love the autism awareness ribbon but the autism speaks symbol infuriates me
I think their symbol very well depicts their view on us.
We are all the same.
There is nothing special about us.
We have nothing to offer.
If you look at autism as a puzzle and you use autism speaks to "put it together," all their pieces make is a mess and an inaccurate picture.
Yeah I know that was stupid sounding but I couldn't think how to word it.
Basically all they have is edge pieces-all they show is one end of the spectrum-all they want is for the world to have is one view of autism.
Yes I know many autistics hate the ribbon but I love the ribbon because it truly is unique an beautiful. To me each piece symbolizes how unique each person with autism is and that none of as are exactly the same but when you step back and look you see the true beauty of the autism spectrum. Again I see things different then most anybody. I don't look at it as "part of my brain are missing," or "I am a puzzle," Though I have to be honest being told I am puzzling is a complement to me it means I make people use THEIR brains
Besides our ribbon is the only ribbon that isn't shared with otherthings. We are unique and I embrace it and I AM for neuro-diversity! |
Let me add a few.
They deny completely the existance of high functioning autism and aspergers, and do their best to make out EVERY autistic as LFA. Then they go and take official statistics about the population of autistics (of which, high functioning indiiduals compose the majority) and use it to suppor their claims about LFA.
Autism Speaks continues to bully, threaten, harass and intimidate Autistic People who stand up against their organization.
Most of their money goes into high profile salaries and parties. Some of it goes into autistic genocide resaerch. Almost none of goes into actually supporting people with autism.
An Autism Speaks employee who has an autistic daughter said in a widely distributed and often aired on television documentary that she wanted to drive her autistic daughter off a bridge.
PS: I spell checked for you :>
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ASdogGeek
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| Posted: Sat Feb 13, 2010 11:00 am Post subject: |
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| hank you I am sorry I am not sure why I have always had that probleam my whole lif. I think it has to do with my mild dyslexia. |
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tangerine12
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| Posted: Sat Feb 13, 2010 4:19 pm Post subject: |
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| You know what's wrong with abortion? |
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ASdogGeek
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| Posted: Sat Feb 13, 2010 8:58 pm Post subject: |
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| tangerine12 wrote: | | You know what's wrong with abortion? |
many things? what? |
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glider18
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| Posted: Sat Feb 13, 2010 9:47 pm Post subject: opinion |
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Just reading about this makes me very angry. I can remember shopping for a support site online. I quickly came across Autism Speaks, WrongPlanet, etc. I read about Autism Speaks, and wow did they seem to have a nice appeal. Then I read some in WrongPlanet and quickly realized that the people of WrongPlanet didn't seem to like Autism Speaks. I wondered why. Then I learned why---and you know the reasons. So I joined WrongPlanet and have not regretted it.
What really upset me is Autism Speaks wanting to push cures. This reminds me of the old psychiatric hospitals trying to lobotomize and use shock therapy in order to "cure" patients. Many of us don't want cured. I know I don't want cured. In my opinion, how do you cure a difference? I don't like them thinking that we are in need of being cured. I am happy with who I am.
And I have read about the aborting of pregnancies because of having an autistic baby, Down's baby, etc. That makes me sick. To me it is a crime to abort such a pregnancy. It aggravates me that many organizations think that non-NT people are defective.
I went to hear a speaker at our local library about a year ago. She was speaking about her autistic son, who was present at the speech. She also brought her new book to sell. Her message written on the book's cover was about autism's hidden blessings. I am thinking, "That sounds great." I thought it was going to be about gifts of autism that people don't often see, or haven't been discovered yet. I bought the book. You know what the lady's message is? That autism is like a monster covering up the real person---and that within the real person is a blessing---but the blessing is hidden because of autism. I am thinking, "Aghhh!!!"
You know what we can do here at the WrongPlanet? We can be an even more powerful voice than Autism Speaks. The WrongPlanet is famous. It is a powerful voice. We need to be advocates and become a force to be heard by the world that we with autism are human beings with the potential of benefitting the world. I know that many of us disagree about certain issues pertaining to facets of our autism. But, I think most of us agree that we are worthwhile and deserve to have a voice.
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tangerine12
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| Posted: Sat Feb 13, 2010 10:58 pm Post subject: |
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| I don't have a problem with "cures", |
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glider18
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| Posted: Sun Feb 14, 2010 7:06 am Post subject: reply |
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| tangerine12 wrote: | | I don't have a problem with "cures", |
That is why I put "many of us," because I am aware that some here would take a cure if it were ever found. But no cure for me---no thanks. The deal with Autism Speaks is that it doesn't represent our voice---it represents their voice which happens to not be representative of our autistic community.
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tangerine12
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| Posted: Sun Feb 14, 2010 1:11 pm Post subject: |
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So you want to protest autism speaks b/c they want to find cures and promote abortion rights?
I support this |
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| Posted: Sun Feb 14, 2010 1:47 pm Post subject: |
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Because everybody deserves the right to live
Autism is not a disease
We are not sick
We are not walking tragedies
We can speak for ourselves.
Most of us don't want a cure.
They want to wipe us out.
They want to develope a genetic test that will lead to abortion
That stupid video that they have
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glider18
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| Posted: Sun Feb 14, 2010 2:00 pm Post subject: my opinion |
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| CockneyRebel wrote: | Because everybody deserves the right to live
Autism is not a disease
We are not sick
We are not walking tragedies
We can speak for ourselves.
Most of us don't want a cure.
They want to wipe us out.
They want to develope a genetic test that will lead to abortion
That stupid video that they have |
This is exactly the reasons for my stand against Autism Speaks. Well put CockneyRebel.
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