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17 May 2010, 3:17 pm

thanks for posting that. i'm way too lazy to have looked it up for myself.

i like the way they do their player at pbskids.org.



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17 May 2010, 3:40 pm

Keeps telling me "This content is currently unavailable". Maybe because I'm not in the states, but it's still annoying, I really wanted to watch it.

Edit: Nevermind, I found it on youtube.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HiJDdg6BDXk


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17 May 2010, 4:12 pm

I'll watch it on YouTube, tonight. :)


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17 May 2010, 4:26 pm

That's pretty cool. Nice to see a positive view of Aspergers.



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17 May 2010, 5:29 pm

I liked it, but Carl seemed more like someone with classic autism than Asperger's. Then again, my social skills were worse and reactions more drastic when I was younger, so that could be another explanation. It was a little odd that Brain's uncle could make such a clear metaphor, though, as metaphors can be pretty difficult.
And by the way, I have no idea how George can expect ANYONE to not be afraid of Wally. Ventriloquist dummies are evil.



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22 May 2010, 12:50 am

RedTatsu wrote:
I liked it, but Carl seemed more like someone with classic autism than Asperger's. Then again, my social skills were worse and reactions more drastic when I was younger, so that could be another explanation. It was a little odd that Brain's uncle could make such a clear metaphor, though, as metaphors can be pretty difficult.
And by the way, I have no idea how George can expect ANYONE to not be afraid of Wally. Ventriloquist dummies are evil.


I thought it was a poor protrayl as well. D.W. and Buster seem or ASish than Carl. I was hoping for this episode one of them would finaly be diagnosed but NO they had to go and create a totaly new character and enforce sterotypes.


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22 May 2010, 2:50 pm

I used to act exactly like that when I was 5 to 10 years old, I think for a young kid with really bad Asperger's it is pretty accurate. I like how George was willing to learn about Carl's condition and found his differences to be cool :)



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23 May 2010, 4:33 pm

For those critical of this epiosde, keep in mind that it was written for children. Although most of us did not have such severe or obvious symptoms, the target audience would not be able to understand differences that were portrayed with more subtlety.


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23 May 2010, 8:08 pm

dyingofpoetry wrote:
For those critical of this epiosde, keep in mind that it was written for children. Although most of us did not have such severe or obvious symptoms, the target audience would not be able to understand differences that were portrayed with more subtlety.


Yes but it's not going to help children understand a peer with AS who is loud, bouncy, in-your-face and agressive and won't shut up about meerkats or trains or whatever. Buster always struck me as having AS and he seems to have it more pronounced than Carl does. D.W. also is more AS than Carl and socialy, she is a poster child.


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24 May 2010, 1:34 pm

for what it was supposed to be, i think they did a really good job. you're not going to get a perfect picture of ASD from a single episode of Arthur. you wouldn't get a perfect picture from an hour-long documentary made to help adults understand, either.

had this come out when i was 8 years old and had i known i had ASD then, i would have been disgusted by the inadequacy of it's portrayal. there are a lot of things like that about other subjects from when i was 8, though, and in retrospect, all of my issues with them were due to my own hunger for details.

i think it was adequate to show what they did and in the manner they portrayed it.



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21 Jun 2010, 3:12 pm

PunkyKat wrote:
RedTatsu wrote:
I liked it, but Carl seemed more like someone with classic autism than Asperger's. Then again, my social skills were worse and reactions more drastic when I was younger, so that could be another explanation. It was a little odd that Brain's uncle could make such a clear metaphor, though, as metaphors can be pretty difficult.
And by the way, I have no idea how George can expect ANYONE to not be afraid of Wally. Ventriloquist dummies are evil.


I thought it was a poor protrayal as well. D.W. and Buster seem or ASish than Carl. I was hoping for this episode one of them would finally be diagnosed but NO they had to go and create a totally new character and enforce stereotypes.


I didn't say it was a bad portrayal, it just seemed a little extreme to me. Actually, it might be a good thing that the creators tried to highlight a lot of the stranger seeming behaviors, because that could help people to better understand what's going on when someone with AS seems to be acting strangely. Also, I haven't seen the show in awhile, but D.W. and Buster seem pretty NT to me.



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21 Jun 2010, 4:44 pm

RedTatsu wrote:
Also, I haven't seen the show in awhile, but D.W. and Buster seem pretty NT to me.


Agreed. NT'ism is a spectrum, too, remember. Some NT's have lots of quirks and many have an AS trait or 2, but without the core differences that make an AS diagnosis helpful.


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21 Jun 2010, 8:41 pm

I particularly liked the real kids that followed. One thing the episode could help with is the fear of autism; everyone portrayed was functioning, just different. That is ultimately the most important message to get through to kids and other parents; this person is capable of many things, and also capable of being a friend, once you figure them out and give an inch.

I don't think there is any such thing as a fully accurate one character portrayal of autism or Aspergers. Each child is so unique. It wouldn't be realistic to expect to see an all-encompassing summary in a 15 minute TV episode.


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25 Jun 2010, 12:07 pm

The episode, "When Carl Met George", is wonderful! I wouldn't be surprised if Marc Brown and his crew were to receive an award from the Autism Society of America (ASA) for their portrayal of Asperger's Syndrome.

I must admit that I am a huge Arthur fan and have been ever since the show's inception in 1996. Despite being 21, I never grew tired of the show as it has kept up with the times and has made references to pop culture. These references include Jeopardy!, American Idol, Law and Order, Pirates of the Carribean, and Harry Potter, among others. I've heard that many grown-ups have watched Arthur regularly for this reason. No wonder it's one of PBS's most popular kids' shows.



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25 Jun 2010, 12:27 pm

DW_a_mom wrote:
NT'ism is a spectrum, too, remember. Some NT's have lots of quirks and many have an AS trait or 2, but without the core differences that make an AS diagnosis helpful.

Thats one of the reasons I don't like the term NT, there is no such thing as being completely normal