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PostPosted: Sun Apr 24, 2011 3:05 am    Post subject: Hitler exterminated mentally ill people and sick people Reply with quote

I believe he probably also did this to autistic,

He was trying to clean the German race or whatnot,

do you think he had good intentions by eliminating the sick?

Think from the German NT perspective. and no Hitler was not autistic.


IF Autism were to have been wiped out by an extermination lest say a thousand years ago, would you support it or be against it? saying you were NT at that time period looking at autistics, also your child was autistic. Question
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PostPosted: Sun Apr 24, 2011 3:09 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Shocked

I'll just leave this ten foot pole right here.
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PostPosted: Sun Apr 24, 2011 3:25 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

?

Shocked

Dude, crack kills.
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PostPosted: Sun Apr 24, 2011 4:15 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

While diversion in a social situation can often times seem confusing and lacking in purpose to those on the spectrum, it can also be a valuable salvage tool. For instance, I rather like waffles. I prefer them with whipped cream and jam of some sort. Do you guys like waffles and if so what do you like on your waffles? Or do some of you prefer pancakes? I'm not against them, though I find the American pancakes a bit on the heavy side.

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PostPosted: Sun Apr 24, 2011 4:19 am    Post subject: Re: Hitler exterminated mentally ill people and sick people Reply with quote

Dasaniman wrote:
I believe he probably also did this to autistic,

He was trying to clean the German race or whatnot,

do you think he had good intentions by eliminating the sick?

Think from the German NT perspective. and no Hitler was not autistic.


IF Autism were to have been wiped out by an extermination lest say a thousand years ago, would you support it or be against it? saying you were NT at that time period looking at autistics, also your child was autistic. Question



Can I ask why you joined wrongplanet? I'm trying to understand your motivations.
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PostPosted: Sun Apr 24, 2011 5:45 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

The Russians killed about 30 mill and the Chinese about 80 mill during their cultural revolutions.

Unfortunately, aspies would have been included, along with hippies(gypsies), homos and blacks

Many gifted intellectuals and social activists-killed

Dullard meatheads who offer cheap labour and present no threat to the heirachy are left in peace

Its a bit like Wrong Planet Wink


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PostPosted: Sun Apr 24, 2011 5:53 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Surfman wrote:
The Russians killed about 70 mill and the Chinese about 100 mill during their cultural revolutions.


very incorrect, about 2 million died in the russian revolutions, there was never a russian cultural revolution, and they didn't kill black or homosexuals, the USSR was one of the first nations to legalise homosexuality, though Stalin made it illegal again about 20 years later.

Don't know about China
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PostPosted: Sun Apr 24, 2011 5:58 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

It wasn't just Hitler and Eugenics didn't start in Nazi Germany.

But I agree, lay off the crack.
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PostPosted: Sun Apr 24, 2011 6:04 am    Post subject: Re: Hitler exterminated mentally ill people and sick people Reply with quote

Dasaniman wrote:
He was trying to clean the German race or whatnot,

do you think he had good intentions by eliminating the sick?

Think from the German NT perspective. and no Hitler was not autistic.


If you want to know more about this, read about Aktion T4

I don't think that killing disabled children for some ideal of 'purity' is a good intention. Neither did the German NT population. It was the only time that he was ever opposed publicly be the German people.

Personally, Aktion T4 makes me feel ill and puts me in a bad mood, so this is all I'm going to say.
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PostPosted: Sun Apr 24, 2011 6:09 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yeah, lay of the crack.

The worst genocides of the 20th Century
Mao Ze-Dong (China, 1958-61 and 1966-69, Tibet 1949-50) 49-78,000,000
Jozef Stalin (USSR, 1932-39) 23,000,000 (the purges plus Ukraine's famine)
Adolf Hitler (Germany, 1939-1945) 12,000,000 (concentration camps and civilians WWII)
Leopold II of Belgium (Congo, 1886-1908) 8,000,000
Hideki Tojo (Japan, 1941-44) 5,000,000 (civilians in WWII)
Ismail Enver (Turkey, 1915-20) 1,200,000 Armenians (1915) + 350,000 Greek Pontians and 480,000 Anatolian Greeks (1916-22) + 500,000 Assyrians (1915-20)
Pol Pot (Cambodia, 1975-79) 1,700,000
Kim Il Sung (North Korea, 1948-94) 1.6 million (purges and concentration camps)
Menghistu (Ethiopia, 1975-7Cool 1,500,000
Yakubu Gowon (Biafra, 1967-1970) 1,000,000
Leonid Brezhnev (Afghanistan, 1979-1982) 900,000
Jean Kambanda (Rwanda, 1994) 800,000
Suharto (East Timor, West Papua, Communists, 1966-9Cool 800,000
Saddam Hussein (Iran 1980-1990 and Kurdistan 1987-8Cool 600,000
Tito (Yugoslavia, 1945-1987) 570,000
Fumimaro Konoe (Japan, 1937-39) 500,000? (Chinese civilians)
Jonas Savimbi (Angola, 1975-2002) 400,000
Mullah Omar - Taliban (Afghanistan, 1986-2001) 400,000
Idi Amin (Uganda, 1969-1979) 300,000
Yahya Khan (Pakistan, 1970-71) 300,000 (Bangladesh)
Benito Mussolini (Ethiopia, 1936; Libya, 1934-45; Yugoslavia, WWII) 300,000
Mobutu Sese Seko (Zaire, 1965-97) ?
Charles Taylor (Liberia, 1989-1996) 220,000
Foday Sankoh (Sierra Leone, 1991-2000) 200,000
Michel Micombero (Burundi, 1972) 150,000
Slobodan Milosevic (Yugoslavia, 1992-99) 100,000
Hassan Turabi (Sudan, 1989-1999) 100,000
Jean-Bedel Bokassa (Centrafrica, 1966-79) ?
Richard Nixon (Vietnam, 1969-1974) 70,000 (Vietnamese and Cambodian civilians)
Efrain Rios Montt (Guatemala, 1982-83) 70,000
Papa Doc Duvalier (Haiti, 1957-71) 60,000
Rafael Trujillo (Dominican Republic, 1930-61) 50,000
Hissene Habre (Chad, 1982-1990) 40,000
Chiang Kai-shek (Taiwan, 1947) 30,000 (popular uprising)
Vladimir Ilich Lenin (USSR, 1917-20) 30,000 (dissidents executed)
Francisco Franco (Spain) 30,000 (dissidents executed after the civil war)
Fidel Castro (Cuba, 1959-1999) 30,000
Lyndon Johnson (Vietnam, 1963-1968) 30,000
Hafez Al-Assad (Syria, 1980-2000) 25,000
Khomeini (Iran, 1979-89) 20,000
Robert Mugabe (Zimbabwe, 1982-87, Ndebele minority) 20,000
Rafael Videla (Argentina, 1976-83) 13,000
Guy Mollet (France, 1956-1957) 10,000 (war in Algeria)
Harold McMillans (Britain, 1952-56, Kenya's Mau-Mau rebellion) 10,000
Paul Koroma (Sierra Leone, 1997) 6,000
Osama Bin Laden (worldwide, 1993-2001) 3,500
Augusto Pinochet (Chile, 1973) 3,000
Al Zarqawi (Iraq, 2004-06) 2,000
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PostPosted: Sun Apr 24, 2011 6:22 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

The military regime of Myanmar(Burma) should be on that list.
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PostPosted: Sun Apr 24, 2011 7:24 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

(Thread moved from General Autism Discussion to PPR)
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PostPosted: Sun Apr 24, 2011 7:52 am    Post subject: Re: Hitler exterminated mentally ill people and sick people Reply with quote

Dasaniman wrote:
do you think he had good intentions by eliminating the sick?


Hans Asperger did not think so. So that is a resounding 'no'. in my opinion.

Dasmanian wrote:
IF Autism were to have been wiped out by an extermination lest say a thousand years ago, would you support it or be against it?


Autism is genetic. Two NT parents can have a child with autism. You cannot wipe it out. You need constant genetic screens to abort the fetus.
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PostPosted: Sun Apr 24, 2011 9:40 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

i see alot of peoples selfish gene has been activated "crack" "crack" "crack"
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PostPosted: Sun Apr 24, 2011 10:00 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

There isn't a single person living without a familial history of SOMETHING, many of them far, far worse than Autism.

If you're going to proclaim Autistics "selfish" for pointing out the near-impossibility of eliminating Autism from the gene pool
(forgive me if I misunderstood)
at least be consistent and proclaim the rest of the planet selfish.

More importantly, proclaiming Hitler's methods "disposing of the sick" is a gross misrepresentation-
before the horrors of his regime were over, he would have murdered thousands of:
gays
Jews
Gypsies
"Semitic-featured"
Communists
etc

many of these groups being represented among the most successful of artists, businessmen, and academicians.

In that same vein, murdering Autistics would not have been some sort of purifying influence (though he might have thought so)-
it would have simply been consistent with his massacre of the DIFFERENT.
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