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PostPosted: Sat Apr 30, 2011 4:54 pm    Post subject: Aspergers and Infantilism Reply with quote

I had mental exam a few weeks ago for my Aspergers and I noticed something interesting. The lady that was examining me basically (again) summed my symptoms, which according to her I have a lot of them. I guess I have a severe case, according to her. I was really nervous at the time, I hate personal exams, but I was following along fine until my Dad brought up a certain other 'issue' of mine. I was never officially diagnosed with it before, but I am an infantilist. I have these strong urges to be treated as a baby, I use an adult pacifier, wear....um...certain things, among other stuff. The interesting thing is that she said it could be caused by my Aspergers. She threw it in with my countless other symptoms. I am not certain if I agree though. It makes sense but its something that I never thought about before, of course I found out that I was diagnosed with Aspergers two years ago, I guess the diagnoses was made a long time ago, and I have had these urges since I was five. I just wanted some other opinions. That lady was nice though. =P

Edit: She was talking about wearing diapers and using a pacifier, not the baby treatment urges.


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PostPosted: Sat Apr 30, 2011 5:04 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Never heard of a connection between the two. I honestly doubt there is one. I've never heard of somebody on the spectrum with infantilism, and the few cases I've heard of where somebody had urges of infantilism didn't involve AS.
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PostPosted: Sat Apr 30, 2011 5:12 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hmm, I should have mentioned this as well. She never actually said anything about baby treatment urges being related. She mainly said wearing diapers and using a pacifier. She said that she has had different cases involving those two things.
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PostPosted: Sat Apr 30, 2011 5:18 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I have no idea if it's linked. There are plenty of NTs who like the same thing. In fact I have come across NTs who like even weirder things. It's a good job I am very open minded!
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PostPosted: Sat Apr 30, 2011 5:24 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Speaking with no particular knowledge on the subject, I would imagine the number of NT individuals who are infantilists would outweigh the Aspies by a staggering amount. I have certainly never heard of the two being in any way connected, and it seems more likely that this is simply a fetish, developed much like any other.
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PostPosted: Sat Apr 30, 2011 7:15 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I think it depends (pun not intended). If you like to do it for sexual reasons, probably not it's probably just a fetish. If you like them because they calm you or relax you, they might be considered a stim-type activity.
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PostPosted: Sat Apr 30, 2011 8:10 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Both myself and one close friend of mine are infantilists, and we are also both diagnosed on the spectrum (me Asperger's, her HFA). The infantilist community has many autistic members.

For me it is not sexual, it is just one of the coping mechanisms I developed when I was young to soothe myself when I am having difficulties. My difficulties caused me to become an infantilist, but just because my difficulties stem from AS, doesn't mean that AS causes infantilism. It is, in my opinion, just one of many ways to cope with difficulties, no matter what caused them.

So to include infantilism as a "symptom" of AS isn't accurate, but I understand why it was done. The cause-and-effect relationship still holds true.
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PostPosted: Sat Apr 30, 2011 8:39 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

That is really interesting, Druidsbird. As I said in my previous post, I wasn't speaking from any base of particular knowledge on the subject. I wonder why it was you and your friend developed such an elaborate calming ritual.

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PostPosted: Sat Apr 30, 2011 8:39 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I used to be one but once my depression went away, my desires went away and then the diapers when my baby came. I see myself as being over it.

Being on the AB/DL forums, it seemed like lot of them were on the autism spectrum so I once made a thread asking if there was some connection to it.

I had also noticed lot of them had AD/HD too, Bipolar PTSD, learning problems, and emotional problems. I also noticed lot of them seemed to have abusive childhoods. So I also wondered if there was a connection between those and infantlism.

I can remember my shrink blaming it on my AS and I thought it was a bunch of bull because NTs are into it too.
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PostPosted: Sat Apr 30, 2011 8:43 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

no, no, and no. but I admit my saying no is from distaste and not factual other than me seeing no cause for infantilism other than some childhood neglect or bad experience which hasn't anything to do with autism.
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PostPosted: Sat Apr 30, 2011 8:50 pm    Post subject: Re: Aspergers and Infantilism Reply with quote

Killman wrote:
I had mental exam a few weeks ago for my Aspergers and I noticed something interesting. The lady that was examining me basically (again) summed my symptoms, which according to her I have a lot of them. I guess I have a severe case, according to her. I was really nervous at the time, I hate personal exams, but I was following along fine until my Dad brought up a certain other 'issue' of mine. I was never officially diagnosed with it before, but I am an infantilist. I have these strong urges to be treated as a baby, I use an adult pacifier, wear....um...certain things, among other stuff. The interesting thing is that she said it could be caused by my Aspergers. She threw it in with my countless other symptoms. I am not certain if I agree though. It makes sense but its something that I never thought about before, of course I found out that I was diagnosed with Aspergers two years ago, I guess the diagnoses was made a long time ago, and I have had these urges since I was five. I just wanted some other opinions. That lady was nice though. =P

Edit: She was talking about wearing diapers and using a pacifier, not the baby treatment urges.


I don't think this lady knows what she's talking about. I'm willing to bet that the vast majority of people with AS don't wear diapers or use a pacifier.
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PostPosted: Sat Apr 30, 2011 9:06 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

There are about seven million adult babies in the world. That is a small number of people compared to six billion. I read this on Daily Diapers or somewhere by a user. On a video my husband watched in 2007, it said five million but I was sure there are more because not everyone knows about other adult babies so they think they are alone. Not all of them go to the websites so they wouldn't know. But there are more than five million autistic people in the world. A lot more.
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PostPosted: Sun May 01, 2011 1:41 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

The lady who was examining me said that she has heard of some cases like this, not a lot. Most other aspies probably have zero desire in this stuff, obviously.She said that it could possibly be related to some type of sensory issue, she said it in a whole better way but my memory is not very good. This is not an assumption that all aspergers people do this, but how it somehow could relate to my case. Its always possible I guess. Symptom was a stupid word to use. I always seem to word things awkwardly.Neutral
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PostPosted: Sun May 01, 2011 10:11 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

druidsbird wrote:
Both myself and one close friend of mine are infantilists, and we are also both diagnosed on the spectrum (me Asperger's, her HFA). The infantilist community has many autistic members.

For me it is not sexual, it is just one of the coping mechanisms I developed when I was young to soothe myself when I am having difficulties. My difficulties caused me to become an infantilist, but just because my difficulties stem from AS, doesn't mean that AS causes infantilism. It is, in my opinion, just one of many ways to cope with difficulties, no matter what caused them.

So to include infantilism as a "symptom" of AS isn't accurate, but I understand why it was done. The cause-and-effect relationship still holds true.

I can relate to this. (I've read only what Wiki writes about infantilism, so I don't know much about it.)

For me it is not sexual too, I don't wear diapers, use pacifiers. I can only relate to "fantasies of a return to infancy", or to an earlier stage of my life, say 3-9 years old. It may be connected to the desire described in the text as "some fantasize about being free of guilt, responsibility, or control". I remember the time I was amids my adolescent crying over my lost childhood... I feel guilty about it, I haven't grown out of it totally after so many years... Embarassed

For coping mechanism, I understand what you write, I do it sometimes, acting in a little bit childish manner, just to avoid conflicts, confrontations, or smooth the conversation.
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PostPosted: Mon May 02, 2011 11:11 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I also should say that this is not sexual for me either, incase anyone was thinking that. :p
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