I hate pregnancy and childbirth.

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Weiss_Yohji
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18 May 2011, 5:47 pm

I'm so disgusted at people going and starting families, especially at my age range or younger. Why the hell do people go and have kids at such an obscenely young age? Young parents should either abort the babies or be shot if you ask me. And don't say that I was a baby once, because that won't stop me.



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18 May 2011, 6:16 pm

Weiss_Yohji wrote:
I'm so disgusted at people going and starting families, especially at my age range or younger. Why the hell do people go and have kids at such an obscenely young age? Young parents should either abort the babies or be shot if you ask me.


why?



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18 May 2011, 6:27 pm

I don't agree with under-age parents - if not responsible enough to prevent pregnancy, you're not responsible enough to have a child - although there are some exceptions, the fact remains having a child when you're still a child yourself isn't a good start for anyone's life.

I'd not go so far as to say they should be shot...my anger over such issues lays firmly with poor sex education, poor sexual health care and people growing-up with poor self-respect/self-esteem due to our culture. Children are not responsible - you can't attack them for that fact, no matter how upsetting it may be to see what is happening.


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18 May 2011, 6:30 pm

i think it's fine for people in their 20's to go and do that if they have the financial competency to do so...

however, in high school most kids did not and I knew tons of pregnant young ladies...

yes its is a problem.....but it's been going on since the dawn of time.

nothing much you can do about it, if people want to be irrisponsible then they will be so.


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18 May 2011, 7:09 pm

liveandletdie wrote:
i think it's fine for people in their 20's to go and do that if they have the financial competency to do so...

however, in high school most kids did not and I knew tons of pregnant young ladies...

yes its is a problem.....but it's been going on since the dawn of time.

nothing much you can do about it, if people want to be irrisponsible then they will be so.


Then why are they allowed to propagate the undesirable elements of the human species (i.e., stupidity) by breeding more idiots? Our species should only favor the smart, not the stupid! Hence why they should be executed! Where's the justice?



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18 May 2011, 7:13 pm

I'll be sure to have 10 children just to piss you off.



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18 May 2011, 7:26 pm

Weiss_Yohji wrote:
I'm so disgusted at people going and starting families, especially at my age range or younger. Why the hell do people go and have kids at such an obscenely young age? Young parents should either abort the babies or be shot if you ask me. And don't say that I was a baby once, because that won't stop me.

You are free to do as you please and so are others - you don't dictate what they do.

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Then why are they allowed to propagate the undesirable elements of the human species (i.e., stupidity) by breeding more idiots? Our species should only favor the smart, not the stupid! Hence why they should be executed! Where's the justice?


Even if we're more lenient in this part of the forum, the rules still apply. So stop calling people idiots and ask they will be executed just because you don't like how they live their life. The purpose of this place is to give people the opportunity to vent and get support for their struggles, not to insult random groups of people so if you want to continue this discussion you'll need to tone it down.


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18 May 2011, 10:20 pm

Oh dear. I guess i must get up on my soap box.

I AM A STUDENT MIDWIFE AND A YOUNG MOTHER!! !! !!

For argument is flawed. There is no contraceptive which is 100% effective. So everytime you have intercourse there is a percentage chance that the female may fall pregnant. If your argument then states that they should have an abortion..... Why? Why should they murder their child just because they started their family earlier the the social norm? Lots of young mothers choose to then continue to have their children then go back to work after their children are school aged. Isn't this better then a person set in profession taking extended leave from their employment to have children later in life and then having to retrain. Both senareos have drawbacks.

Also a woman is at her most fertile between 20 and 25. After the age of 25 her fertility starts to decline and quite a few women are left with no resort but to use Reproductive technology like IVF to start their families even in their early 30's. Maybe these women should not be able to have children? That is for them to decide.

In a midwifery capacity a woman in her 20's with a healthy lifestyle that is reasonably fit will have the least chance of major complications occuring during the labor and delivery process. A girl in her early teens may have issues with her pubis being immature and women in their 30's have a higher risk of complications that will require a c-section.

A woman is fine to have a baby at any age as long as they have adequate support. This can be school, community, partner, husband, family, church ect.


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18 May 2011, 11:16 pm

Solvejg wrote:
Oh dear. I guess i must get up on my soap box.

I AM A STUDENT MIDWIFE AND A YOUNG MOTHER!! !! !!

For argument is flawed. There is no contraceptive which is 100% effective. So everytime you have intercourse there is a percentage chance that the female may fall pregnant. If your argument then states that they should have an abortion..... Why? Why should they murder their child just because they started their family earlier the the social norm? Lots of young mothers choose to then continue to have their children then go back to work after their children are school aged. Isn't this better then a person set in profession taking extended leave from their employment to have children later in life and then having to retrain. Both senareos have drawbacks.

Also a woman is at her most fertile between 20 and 25. After the age of 25 her fertility starts to decline and quite a few women are left with no resort but to use Reproductive technology like IVF to start their families even in their early 30's. Maybe these women should not be able to have children? That is for them to decide.

In a midwifery capacity a woman in her 20's with a healthy lifestyle that is reasonably fit will have the least chance of major complications occuring during the labor and delivery process. A girl in her early teens may have issues with her pubis being immature and women in their 30's have a higher risk of complications that will require a c-section.

A woman is fine to have a baby at any age as long as they have adequate support. This can be school, community, partner, husband, family, church ect.


well...my argument would be that they shouldn't have had sex in the first place...

sex has concequences....not always but sometimes.

once it occurs I would agree the child should be born, and not all young parents are bad parents.

but there will be less knowledge to pass to the young child which is why i think older is better.


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19 May 2011, 2:40 am

Can you not bash young mothers? How about saying you are sick of irresponsible people having kids? It is discriminating to be against young women having kids because anyone of any age can be irresponsible. You can be in your 40's and still be a crappy parent or be in your 30's and still suck at it. I am so sick and tired of the stigma and stereotypes about young mothers.

I'm 25 and just had a baby in December so shoot me. :P

Besides you are more fertile at a young age until you hit 26, then it drops and it's harder to conceive. And lot of kids are unplanned. Just people being irresponsible about having sex and it's rare for a condom to fail. But any age can have unprotected sex. I wanted a baby at a young age because I didn't want to be in my 30's by the time I have my first child because I read it's harder on your body and you have to work harder at getting it back. Young women just tend to pop back into shape after having their little ones like I did. My mom did too at 31 after she had me but she didn't pop back into shape after having my brothers because she was older. I wanted kids before but didn't feel financially ready and because of my work schedule and my husband's. When I was with my last ex, it was because I wasn't in the right environment and I wasn't financially stable then either. In my first relationship it was because my ex was irresponsible and I couldn't see him being a good dad. before that, I was just too young. Still living at home and I didn't want to be a single mother and I was still in school, even after I had finished, I still didn't want them yet.



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19 May 2011, 4:40 am

There is something called free will. You cannot force people to do things. People have rights, you know? I do not agree with teen pregnancy. I do think it should be stopped, but it has to be done by education. I am also against people having a lot of kids... I mean... Our world is crowded enough, right?
I think you should read Aldous Huxley's "Brave new world" to understand why everybody is necesary in a society. You should also read about genetics to understand why diversity is so important to genetics.
It's funny because AS people usually talk about diversity and tolerance (being accepted and being tolerated), but you just want to eliminate everybody else. You are just immature. You will grow up eventually (I hope).
Did you hear about Hittler? I think he shared you point of view...



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19 May 2011, 7:53 am

This is the haven. Can we please not debate the abortion issue here, and not call people who don't agree murderers? There is a politics and religion forum for that, where those not wanting to be exposed to that can just not venture.

I understand where the OP is coming from, though I do agree it is overstated and yes, the vitriol is out of bounds. I happen to love children, but see lots of irresponsible people who get pregnant while immature and not ready, and do things like use drugs and alcohol during pregnancy, have kids they can't afford, neglect them, and no, no one can force them to give those kids up unless and until they do something the state considers abusive or neglectful. Needing to be shot? NO...and the abortion decision, IMO, is one best left to the pregnant woman and no one else, but this is a social problem that is disturbing and for which easy solutions are not forthcoming. Shooting people and coercing abortion aren't solutions, but neither is just looking the other way and letting it happen.

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19 May 2011, 8:24 am

I don't think having kids so young is really right either, but I do have to say you may be taking it a bit too far. My mother was 19 when I was born, and I'm sure as hell glad she wasn't shot/had an abortion :(. Quite honestly, yes it was hard (especially when my Dad left) and yes my mom was too young, but she was not a bad mother. She worked her a** off morning and night everyday just to keep me alive. Not all young parents are horrible, idiot breeding fools.


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19 May 2011, 2:13 pm

<I> I'm so disgusted at people going and starting families, especially at my age range or younger. Why the hell do people go and have kids at such an obscenely young age? Young parents should either abort the babies or be shot if you ask me. And don't say that I was a baby once, because that won't stop me.
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I don't agree with people having children at a young age, but I don't agree with many things people do at a young age. This includes drugs, dropping out of school, getting tatoo's etc.

People make mistakes and to be honest-- as long as they're good parents it shouldn't matter. Will 95% of parents not be ready at a young age? Will it make the parents raising kids life significantly harder? Yep.

Yep. But I had pretty bad parents and my mom wasn't a teen and I know good parents who were teens. The responsibility falls on them and as long as they meet it, its fine.



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19 May 2011, 4:45 pm

liveandletdie wrote:
i think it's fine for people in their 20's to go and do that if they have the financial competency to do so...

however, in high school most kids did not and I knew tons of pregnant young ladies...

yes its is a problem.....but it's been going on since the dawn of time.

nothing much you can do about it, if people want to be irrisponsible then they will be so.
Murder has also been around since the dawn of time. What does that make murder.



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19 May 2011, 4:48 pm

Jonsi wrote:
liveandletdie wrote:
i think it's fine for people in their 20's to go and do that if they have the financial competency to do so...

however, in high school most kids did not and I knew tons of pregnant young ladies...

yes its is a problem.....but it's been going on since the dawn of time.

nothing much you can do about it, if people want to be irrisponsible then they will be so.
Murder has also been around since the dawn of time. What does that make murder.


i fail to see your point.


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