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Is oxytocin available without a prescription?
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PostPosted: Tue Jul 05, 2011 1:21 pm    Post subject: Is oxytocin available without a prescription? Reply with quote

When I search online, I don't find websites that seem trustworthy. I know there is the oxytocin nasal spray administered to women to induce labor and lactation, but is there anything else in those sprays? Could it be dangerous to a non-pregnant girl? I wonder if it is the same product used in experiments of the effects of oxytocin on psychology/mood/ASD symptoms?

I should probably be asking a doctor about this, but then I'd have to explain myself and pay him money (things I'd rather not do).
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PostPosted: Tue Jul 05, 2011 1:32 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Why do you want to take Oxytocin?

Edit: Anyway you can check the side effects and see if it will harm you... but I guess major amount of this drug is still in clinical trials..

oxytocinhttp://www.project-aware.org/Resource/articlearchives/oxytocin.shtml
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Oxytocin is destroyed in the gastrointestinal tract, so it is generally administered by injection, nasal spray, or sublingual dosage form. Bellevue Pharmacy currently compounds both oxytocin sublingual tablets and oxytocin nasal spray, which require a prescription.
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PostPosted: Tue Jul 05, 2011 1:40 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Here's why, I just want to try

http://abcnews.go.com/Health/AutismNews/love-hormone-oxytocin-shows-promise-autism/story?id=9843745
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PostPosted: Tue Jul 05, 2011 1:42 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

pree10shun wrote:
Why do you want to take Oxytocin?

Edit: Anyway you can check the side effects and see if it will harm you... but I guess major amount of this drug is still in clinical trials..

oxytocinhttp://www.project-aware.org/Resource/articlearchives/oxytocin.shtml
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Oxytocin is destroyed in the gastrointestinal tract, so it is generally administered by injection, nasal spray, or sublingual dosage form. Bellevue Pharmacy currently compounds both oxytocin sublingual tablets and oxytocin nasal spray, which require a prescription.


So I wonder if the sites claiming to sell it are illegal or lying about their product (or both)...
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PostPosted: Tue Jul 05, 2011 9:58 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

i took it had heart attack like symptoms, im selling the bottle for ten less then i bought it on ebay
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PostPosted: Tue Jul 05, 2011 10:10 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Koko23 wrote:
pree10shun wrote:
Why do you want to take Oxytocin?

Edit: Anyway you can check the side effects and see if it will harm you... but I guess major amount of this drug is still in clinical trials..

oxytocinhttp://www.project-aware.org/Resource/articlearchives/oxytocin.shtml
Quote:
Oxytocin is destroyed in the gastrointestinal tract, so it is generally administered by injection, nasal spray, or sublingual dosage form. Bellevue Pharmacy currently compounds both oxytocin sublingual tablets and oxytocin nasal spray, which require a prescription.


So I wonder if the sites claiming to sell it are illegal or lying about their product (or both)...


I have no idea.. I tend to skeptical of everyone selling and everything being sold on the internet... I always go to my shrink for medicine and don't take anything that I think is not necessary.. I don't understand how this will change the autistic brain except it will add a compassionate side to you maybe if you are not compassionate enough to begin with. I would advice you wait if you don't mind till some further research is done on this topic or why don't you ask your therapist?
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PostPosted: Tue Jul 05, 2011 11:51 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Well I don't have a therapist and don't really want one.

I guess it would be smart to wait. I was sort of thinking that they are just going to package it up differently for commercial reasons, but oxytocin is oxytocin. If it reduced ASD symptoms in studies, why not try it?

But of course "why not?" isn't a good reason to do something you don't understand, which is why I waited. I guess I'll keep waiting, but I've never liked dealing with mental health professionals.
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PostPosted: Wed Jul 06, 2011 1:25 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I think it would be dangerous. Anything that forces you to trust and love other people would make you much more vulnerable to exploitation, and we're already naive and vulnerable enough as it is. While you might have an easier time making eye contact or initiating conversations, that's too much of a price to pay for that dangerous an effect.
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PostPosted: Wed Jul 06, 2011 1:35 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I wish, but its doubful there is any legal way to aqquire it without a prescrition.
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PostPosted: Wed Jul 06, 2011 12:23 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Callista wrote:
I think it would be dangerous. Anything that forces you to trust and love other people would make you much more vulnerable to exploitation, and we're already naive and vulnerable enough as it is. While you might have an easier time making eye contact or initiating conversations, that's too much of a price to pay for that dangerous an effect.


You mean dangerous effects like not being labeled a weirdo within 30 seconds of socializing? Yeah, you're probably right.
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PostPosted: Wed Jul 06, 2011 12:41 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Wow I totally read the title wrong I thought this conversation was about oxycodone.....which I have been wanting to try hence my initial response. Anyways I am now looking up what this topic was actually about as i have no idea what ocytocin is.
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PostPosted: Wed Jul 06, 2011 12:47 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Sweetleaf wrote:
Wow I totally read the title wrong I thought this conversation was about oxycodone.....which I have been wanting to try hence my initial response. Anyways I am now looking up what this topic was actually about as i have no idea what ocytocin is.


Its a natural hormone that is important for a lot of things, including contractions during labor, orgasms, and social bonding.

Its been shown to be deficient in the brains of monkeys raised in isolation and in people with autism.

Its also been shown to improve empathy in men and people with ASD. After inhaling oxytocin nasal spray, men performed as well as woman on empathy tests, and people with ASD perform more like neurotypicals.
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PostPosted: Wed Jul 06, 2011 12:52 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Koko23 wrote:
Sweetleaf wrote:
Wow I totally read the title wrong I thought this conversation was about oxycodone.....which I have been wanting to try hence my initial response. Anyways I am now looking up what this topic was actually about as i have no idea what ocytocin is.


Its a natural hormone that is important for a lot of things, including contractions during labor, orgasms, and social bonding.

Its been shown to be deficient in the brains of monkeys raised in isolation and in people with autism.

Its also been shown to improve empathy in men and people with ASD. After inhaling oxytocin nasal spray, men performed as well as woman on empathy tests, and people with ASD perform more like neurotypicals.


Yeah I just looked it up on erowid.org.....it sounds like it could be helpful, as it says how it can help with autism and social interaction. I do not think I would consistantly want to take that though because I have my reasons for not trusting people. I have not found any really dangerous side effects yet....so it might be something worth looking into.
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PostPosted: Thu Jul 07, 2011 7:55 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Koko23 wrote:
Callista wrote:
I think it would be dangerous. Anything that forces you to trust and love other people would make you much more vulnerable to exploitation, and we're already naive and vulnerable enough as it is. While you might have an easier time making eye contact or initiating conversations, that's too much of a price to pay for that dangerous an effect.


You mean dangerous effects like not being labeled a weirdo within 30 seconds of socializing? Yeah, you're probably right.
I think you'd probably still be labeled a weirdo. You'd just love the people who labeled you.
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PostPosted: Thu Jul 07, 2011 8:47 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Callista wrote:
Koko23 wrote:
Callista wrote:
I think it would be dangerous. Anything that forces you to trust and love other people would make you much more vulnerable to exploitation, and we're already naive and vulnerable enough as it is. While you might have an easier time making eye contact or initiating conversations, that's too much of a price to pay for that dangerous an effect.


You mean dangerous effects like not being labeled a weirdo within 30 seconds of socializing? Yeah, you're probably right.
I think you'd probably still be labeled a weirdo. You'd just love the people who labeled you.


Haha perhaps. The idea is that increasing your empathizing ability would make your responses more appropriate given the feelings of others, and as a result they would actually find you more appealing to hang out with because you more accurately assess and consider their feelings during social interactions (which I personally do not believe is a bad thing.... the fact is that other people have feelings, and it is MY problem if I am not in tune with them as well as others).

Also, if one really becomes better at empathizing, I'd think you'd also become better at lie detection because the motives (good or bad) of others would be more easily accessible to you and you would be more aware of things like body language (although I've read body language is really not as useful for detecting lies as people often think).
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