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PostPosted: Sun Jan 01, 2012 3:33 am    Post subject: "Did Fracking Cause a 4.0 Magnitude Earthquake...?" Reply with quote

The title just makes me laugh lol (thanks Battlestar Galactica!). In all seriousness, I don't know much about the real fracking, except that it's used to make cracks in rocks for oil drilling (definition, from Wikipedia, which got it from some other source that I don't know: Fracking: Hydraulic fracturing (called "frac jobs" or "frac'ing" or "fracking" in the industry) is a process that results in the creation of fractures in rocks, the goal of which is to increase the output of a well). Here's the article if you'd like to read more into it: Did Fracking Cause a 4.0 Magnitude Earthquake in Eastern Ohio on Saturday?
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PostPosted: Sun Jan 01, 2012 8:53 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Fracking hell.
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PostPosted: Sun Jan 01, 2012 12:05 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

a 4.0 earthquake in Ohio? i don't think so. i think one state over...Michigan...i would've felt it...or the aftershocks.

heck...when there was one in Illinois i felt it!
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PostPosted: Sun Jan 01, 2012 12:11 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

4.0 in Ohio

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McDONALD, Ohio (AP) — Officials said Saturday they believe the latest earthquake activity in northeast Ohio is related to the injection of wastewater into the ground near a fault line, creating enough pressure to cause seismic activity.

The brine wastewater comes from drilling operations that use the so-called fracking process to extract gas from underground shale. But Ohio Department of Natural Resources Director Jim Zehringer said during a news teleconference that fracking is not causing the quakes.


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PostPosted: Sun Jan 01, 2012 2:08 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I suppose an earthquake could happen if nuclear charges are used instead of dynamite.
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PostPosted: Sun Jan 01, 2012 6:40 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Not just 'No', but frack no!
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PostPosted: Sun Jan 01, 2012 6:58 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

You need bigger, natural fractures in rocks to generate an earthquake of that size. There are faults all over North America. They are normally dormant except for the west coast and a couple other spots, but any one of them can generate an earthquake if the movement of other faults puts enough pressure on them.
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PostPosted: Mon Jan 02, 2012 8:38 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

While fracking has been directly linked to increased seismic activity, I am not sure in this case. Usually, they set off smaller earthquakes around 2.0-3.0s. I wouldn't trust the media too much in general. But there is a reason fracking has been banned in certain countries like France.
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PostPosted: Sat Jan 07, 2012 5:09 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Geologists say Ohio quakes directly tied to fracking

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Recent earthquakes in Ohio and Oklahoma have been directly linked to deep wells used to dispose of liquid wastes for hydraulic fracturing or "fracking" of natural gas, according to geological experts.


Fracking is not a good idea.
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PostPosted: Sat Jan 07, 2012 5:18 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Bombshell Report Links Water Contamination To Fracking For The First Time

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In a first, federal environment officials today scientifically linked underground water pollution with hydraulic fracturing, concluding that contaminants found in central Wyoming were likely caused by the gas drilling process.


Fracking is only good for the people whose pockets it lines.
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PostPosted: Wed Jan 18, 2012 10:10 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I don't know about a magnitude 4.0 earthquake in Ohio...

...but from the Monongahela Valley, Frac Central, there are plenty of other things to hate about it.

Like that certain companies have a nasty habit of dumping used frac water in local streams. Like that there are few protections for surface owners, royalties are a joke, and forced pooling ought to be a crime (but isn't, according to the PA courts).

Like the fact that most of the drillers are out-of-state companies that bring in out-of-state workers and take the profits, guess where, out of state. This is referred to as a "colonial economy." We have seen this before, in the same place, in recent history. It left a hell of a mess. Google "Appalachian labor wars," "West Virginia mine wars," et cetera.

It's enough to cause a meltdown.
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PostPosted: Wed Jan 18, 2012 10:14 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

snapcap wrote:
Bombshell Report Links Water Contamination To Fracking For The First Time

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In a first, federal environment officials today scientifically linked underground water pollution with hydraulic fracturing, concluding that contaminants found in central Wyoming were likely caused by the gas drilling process.


Fracking is only good for the people whose pockets it lines.


And the people who don't freeze to death because they can depend on natural gas heat in their homes.
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PostPosted: Wed Jan 18, 2012 11:25 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

JWC wrote:
snapcap wrote:
Bombshell Report Links Water Contamination To Fracking For The First Time

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In a first, federal environment officials today scientifically linked underground water pollution with hydraulic fracturing, concluding that contaminants found in central Wyoming were likely caused by the gas drilling process.


Fracking is only good for the people whose pockets it lines.


And the people who don't freeze to death because they can depend on natural gas heat in their homes.


Because they wouldn't get it any other way?
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PostPosted: Wed Jan 18, 2012 11:28 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

snapcap wrote:
JWC wrote:
snapcap wrote:
Bombshell Report Links Water Contamination To Fracking For The First Time

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In a first, federal environment officials today scientifically linked underground water pollution with hydraulic fracturing, concluding that contaminants found in central Wyoming were likely caused by the gas drilling process.


Fracking is only good for the people whose pockets it lines.


And the people who don't freeze to death because they can depend on natural gas heat in their homes.


Because they wouldn't get it any other way?


Why should they have to?
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PostPosted: Wed Jan 18, 2012 12:14 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

JWC wrote:
snapcap wrote:
JWC wrote:
snapcap wrote:
Bombshell Report Links Water Contamination To Fracking For The First Time

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In a first, federal environment officials today scientifically linked underground water pollution with hydraulic fracturing, concluding that contaminants found in central Wyoming were likely caused by the gas drilling process.


Fracking is only good for the people whose pockets it lines.


And the people who don't freeze to death because they can depend on natural gas heat in their homes.


Because they wouldn't get it any other way?


Why should they have to?


Have to what?
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