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PostPosted: Fri Feb 17, 2012 1:37 am    Post subject: Abnormal breathing pattern-"sobbing breaths"? Reply with quote

I seem to have developed some kind of breathing irregularity; I think it might be from stress and depression. (?)

I've had it for a few years now. I haven't gone to a doctor in years because I don't trust most doctors, and if I do have some sort of critical medical issue, I don't think I want to know.

The only way I can describe this is: it's like those quick consecutive breaths after crying for a long time - "sobbing breaths"....except I'm not crying. I get these at least several times a day, and it seems to happen more often when I'm stressed. It's completely involuntary...well, it's just like breathing. I never know which breaths are going to be "sobbing breaths" before they happen.

They only happen when I inhale. It's not every breath; the most frequent irregular breaths might have several normal breaths in between them....but sometimes there are hours in between these "sobbing breaths".

Anybody else ever experience anything like this, or know someone who has this issue?
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PostPosted: Fri Feb 17, 2012 1:46 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I've done this my whole life. I think it's because I have poor posture and shallow breathing. Every now and then I'll have a deep, involuntary intake of breath that is somewhat spasmodic in nature.

Getting exercise helps...anything that ups my heart rate and induces deeper breather. Cycling has been especially good for it.
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PostPosted: Fri Feb 17, 2012 1:49 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Poor posture, weak tone are possible reasons. I know I personally hahve trouble breathing if I sit up straight.

I sigh at random times and people will ask me what is wrong. It's embarrassing.
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PostPosted: Fri Feb 17, 2012 1:52 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

justalouise wrote:
I've done this my whole life. I think it's because I have poor posture and shallow breathing. Every now and then I'll have a deep, involuntary intake of breath that is somewhat spasmodic in nature.

Getting exercise helps...anything that ups my heart rate and induces deeper breather. Cycling has been especially good for it.


Thanks for your reply Smile
That totally makes sense. I definitely have shallow breathing - and then I guess need more oxygen so these quick little inhales all happen together. I had searched online but didn't really seem to find a likely cause.
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PostPosted: Fri Feb 17, 2012 1:54 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Lynners wrote:
Poor posture, weak tone are possible reasons. I know I personally hahve trouble breathing if I sit up straight.

I sigh at random times and people will ask me what is wrong. It's embarrassing.


Me too. When I sigh, my husband always asks why I'm upset, and I have to tell him I'm just breathing.
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PostPosted: Fri Feb 17, 2012 2:45 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I have these weird quick shallow breathing patterns that I have to do sometimes. It's voluntary, but I feel a strong urge to do it. I have a bunch of different patterns too - it used to be worse when I was younger, although I also had many tics, stims, etc. at the time.

When I hear a recording of myself playing instruments, I can sometimes hear myself holding/very slowly releasing my breath (well, that part I can't hear), then suddenly and quickly filling my lungs. Obviously this doesn't happen with wind instruments, haha.
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PostPosted: Fri Feb 17, 2012 3:21 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Atomsk wrote:
I have these weird quick shallow breathing patterns that I have to do sometimes. It's voluntary, but I feel a strong urge to do it. I have a bunch of different patterns too - it used to be worse when I was younger, although I also had many tics, stims, etc. at the time.

When I hear a recording of myself playing instruments, I can sometimes hear myself holding/very slowly releasing my breath (well, that part I can't hear), then suddenly and quickly filling my lungs. Obviously this doesn't happen with wind instruments, haha.


That's interesting that you have different patterns. I guess that's a stim then?

I can't seem to control this breath pattern. My "deep sigh" breath is controllable, even though when I need to sigh, it's mandatory.

Wind instruments breathing Smile ...I'd bet playing wind instruments is healthy, with all of that deep breathing. Idea
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PostPosted: Fri Feb 17, 2012 3:51 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I hold my breath when I play, too (mostly stringed instruments). I wish it weren't so hard to just relax and play...I should probably get back into yoga and some meditation.

Also if you have poor posture/slump, situps/crunches can help. It also helps prevent back problems.

(Another instance in which I should be better about taking my own advice).
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PostPosted: Fri Feb 17, 2012 3:58 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

justalouise wrote:
I hold my breath when I play, too (mostly stringed instruments). I wish it weren't so hard to just relax and play...I should probably get back into yoga and some meditation.

Also if you have poor posture/slump, situps/crunches can help. It also helps prevent back problems.

(Another instance in which I should be better about taking my own advice).


..... /\...... that's me too Wink
I didn't have this breathing problem when I was taking better care of myself. I need to get back into Tai Chi.
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PostPosted: Fri Feb 17, 2012 4:10 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I have great posture. Thanks Mom.

I wonder if it's not a stimming kind of thing. Several years ago I found out that I hold my breath or breathe shallowly.

I had to become aware of my breathing because I was getting debilitating headaches doctors couldn't explain. For me, it's stress induced, like stimming.

Yoga helped immensely. I do something called "belly breathing" at least once a day and when I bend over, I make sure to exhale. The headaches went away after 6 months but I have to pay attention to my breathing all the time.

I hadn't thought about it but I used to suddenly suck in a lot of air at once every now and then, usually during a yawn. It was a little loud. In reading this post, I realized I don't do it any more.
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PostPosted: Fri Feb 17, 2012 9:19 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

it sounds like subconscious spasms of the diaphragm.
there could be some chronic infection which interferes with the diaphragmatic stimulus from your hypothalamus and limbic system.
i do not know.
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PostPosted: Fri Feb 17, 2012 8:17 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

unduki and b9, I really don't know although those are logical explanations.

I'm tending to think mine isn't a stim, although Atomsk seems to be describing a breathing stim.

Chronic infection?, very possible, but it does seem to coincide with my lack of exercise lately. Also when I'm stressed I tend to hold my breath and I don't even realize it.


I think it's time to change my routine to get some exercise in during the day. I have such a tough time getting motivated - which is true for most people. I gotta do it.


I appreciate all of your responses and ideas of possible/probable causes of this condition. Thanks Smile
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PostPosted: Fri Feb 17, 2012 11:20 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I have those sobbing breaths quite a bit. I thought that I was the only one who got them.
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PostPosted: Fri Feb 17, 2012 11:23 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

goodwitchy wrote:
Atomsk wrote:
I have these weird quick shallow breathing patterns that I have to do sometimes. It's voluntary, but I feel a strong urge to do it. I have a bunch of different patterns too - it used to be worse when I was younger, although I also had many tics, stims, etc. at the time.

When I hear a recording of myself playing instruments, I can sometimes hear myself holding/very slowly releasing my breath (well, that part I can't hear), then suddenly and quickly filling my lungs. Obviously this doesn't happen with wind instruments, haha.


That's interesting that you have different patterns. I guess that's a stim then?

I can't seem to control this breath pattern. My "deep sigh" breath is controllable, even though when I need to sigh, it's mandatory.

Wind instruments breathing Smile ...I'd bet playing wind instruments is healthy, with all of that deep breathing. Idea


I think mine is a stim, yes. It used to be a compulsive, though. It might still be, actually. These days I don't really think about or notice it usually, when I do it. Most others wouldn't either. They are all very fast and specific rhythms involving a low amount of air movement, thus they are noiseless for everyone but me, pretty much.

Could you perhaps go into a more detailed explanation about what it is you are doing during these "sobbing breaths"? I'm a bit hazy on what it is you are doing.
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PostPosted: Sat Feb 18, 2012 12:00 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

CockneyRebel wrote:
I have those sobbing breaths quite a bit. I thought that I was the only one who got them.


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