Ilan
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 Posted: Sun Apr 29, 2012 3:08 pm Post subject: The harmful effects of oats |
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Hi,
I would like to give an account of my observations of the effects of oats taken after a free diet gluten, casein, meat, eggs and milk, 36h before.
Before: I were in a state of well-being, particularly pleased.
I taken 30 grames of oats
1 hour later: It's like if my head was stuck in a washing machine drum
2 hours later: -Impaired reasoning, vegetative state of mind
-disconnection between myself and the outside, I look as if hypnotized, empty mind in a sort of mental confusion.
-I feel the source of interference at the top of my left hemisphere, i feel a pressure, as if something was stuck.
Recovery: -The vision becomes clearer as if the black / white contrast increased, the black text on my screen is deeper and sharpness
-The sense of happiness is still not income 5 hours later (meantime I ate corn)
-5 hours later i can't feel anything in my left hemisphere but I feel mentally exhausted
conclusion:
A substance in oats appears to behave like poison to the brain (of autistic if i'm generalizing my case) apparently at the top of the left hemisphere and affecting mainly the vision and the reasoning in less than an hour. |
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Kjas
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| Posted: Sun Apr 29, 2012 3:20 pm Post subject: |
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Some people who have celiac disease, are gluten intolerant or don't do well on gluten, also have issues with oats due to one of the proteins in them called avenin. In some people it will have a similar reaction that gluten will. (about 1 in 5 who can't eat gluten react to oats)
Also, almost all oats are cross contaiminated with gluten, so you may simply be reacting to the gluten, unless you specially brought certifited gluten free oats.
You may have been glutened via cross containimated (CC'ed) or you might be one of the minority who reacts to oats.
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MONKEY
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| Posted: Sun Apr 29, 2012 3:21 pm Post subject: |
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They may not agree with you, but it doesn't mean everyone else should avoid them.
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ouinon
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| Posted: Sun Apr 29, 2012 3:22 pm Post subject: |
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Interesting about the avenin protein.
And almost all widely available oats also contain small but significant amounts of gluten in them simply because most brands of oats are processed/milled/packed etc in the same factories which process wheat flour/cereal.
Celiac.com has lists of brands of oats supposedly guaranteed absolutely gluten-free, ie. processed separately, because many people with celiac disease and/or with the more common but less well known gluten-intolerance/sensitivity do react quite badly to even the small or trace amounts of gluten in most brands of oats.
Personally I have completely given up eating oats because I can't be bothered to look for or pay the extra for the uncontaminated variety. I have also given up corn because I think that its plant storage proteins aren't exactly brilliant for my digestive system either.
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Delphiki
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| Posted: Sun Apr 29, 2012 3:26 pm Post subject: |
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I haven't had any issues like what you described, I eat oatmeal for breakfast every morning.
You generalized really far. I do not like raspberries, so no one should ever eat them. Cake is not very healthy and I do not like it so others should not eat it. |
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kx250rider
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| Posted: Mon Apr 30, 2012 10:49 am Post subject: |
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I eat oats in huge amounts. That's the only grain food that I like, and I haven't had any problems with oats, but I have heard that some other people get digestive distress from too much oat meal.
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| Posted: Mon Apr 30, 2012 10:57 am Post subject: |
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What they said.
If everyone on here started a thread to warn others of foods that had disagreed with them personally, we'd be swamped. 
I'm sorry to hear you had such a bad reaction to your oats and hope you feel better soon.
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snapcap
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| Posted: Mon Apr 30, 2012 2:15 pm Post subject: |
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I've ate oats for breakfast for over a week now, and I feel fine.
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| Posted: Mon Apr 30, 2012 2:22 pm Post subject: |
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I don't like how oats taste, the texture, or how they make me feel. I don't feel horrid because of them, but I don't feel good. Many people praise them so I don't say they are bad. They just aren't for me, and I'm not really sure why, so I just avoid them.
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lostmyself
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| Posted: Mon Apr 30, 2012 2:23 pm Post subject: |
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| I don't digest oats properly. I get bloated and my tummy feels like it is burning. The thing is I thought I was gluten intolerant but turns out I can digest wheat. I am allergic to corn and barley though. |
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ValentineWiggin
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| Posted: Mon Apr 30, 2012 2:49 pm Post subject: |
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I don't have any problem with oats, except they're too high-calorie + starchy for me.
I did develop a wheat intolerance a few years ago, though, and was lactose intolerant as an infant.
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Joker
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| Posted: Mon Apr 30, 2012 4:39 pm Post subject: |
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| I like oats I eat them quite often their a good source of energy when you go to work out after eating. |
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nostromo
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| Posted: Tue May 01, 2012 5:39 am Post subject: |
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| Oats do bad things to my digestive system which is a shame, because I like them and in general they are quite good for you I believe. |
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Mummy_of_Peanut
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| Posted: Tue May 01, 2012 6:33 am Post subject: |
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As others have said, it might not be the oats, but the contamination from the other grains (they are usually mlled in the same place). If you are very sensitive to gluten, this is a very strong possibility. If you can get hold of pure gluten-free oats, try them and see how you get on, although they are more expensive than standard oats.
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Ilan
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| Posted: Tue May 01, 2012 2:47 pm Post subject: |
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| I recently changed my diet, Before, I use to eat all foods without special exceptions. If I eat cereals with gluten, I will not feel bad, it immerse me in a state which isolates me from the outside. I didn't ate gluten products today, the main difference is the vision, the text is still clearer. I am less absorbed even if my mind stay immersed. |
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