StuartN
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 Posted: Tue Sep 18, 2012 6:47 am Post subject: Domain name registration contact details |
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I have a website at stuartn.myisp.com and just realised that the ISP used my billing details in the domain registration. If I run a public whois, then my home address, home phone number and personal email are returned. I asked about private registration and was sent a document of unholy complexity about the consequences, including administration fees for forwarding mail if anyone ever complains about or queries the website content.
Does anyone have any experience of domain registration? |
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AngelKnight
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Order a post-office box, set the contacts to go there.
If you're specifically trying to make it hard to have the WHOIS information lead back to you as a person, you'll want a domain registration agent. |
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StuartN
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| Posted: Fri Sep 21, 2012 7:17 am Post subject: |
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| AngelKnight wrote: | | If you're specifically trying to make it hard to have the WHOIS information lead back to you as a person, you'll want a domain registration agent. |
I don't want to make myself difficult to trace, or obstruct any legal enquiry. I simply want to remove my home address and home telephone number from the whois results, because I don't want stalkers or other malicious people knowing where I live.
The web host provides a "private registration" in which their contact details are used, and then charge the client for forwarding messages sent to the web site - but the legal contract is very long and very difficult to understand. I wondered if anyone had experience of doing this. |
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sliqua-jcooter
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| Posted: Fri Sep 21, 2012 10:39 am Post subject: |
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| StuartN wrote: | | AngelKnight wrote: | | If you're specifically trying to make it hard to have the WHOIS information lead back to you as a person, you'll want a domain registration agent. |
I don't want to make myself difficult to trace, or obstruct any legal enquiry. I simply want to remove my home address and home telephone number from the whois results, because I don't want stalkers or other malicious people knowing where I live.
The web host provides a "private registration" in which their contact details are used, and then charge the client for forwarding messages sent to the web site - but the legal contract is very long and very difficult to understand. I wondered if anyone had experience of doing this. |
You can do private registration if you want to - IMO I never really saw the point. I've had a bunch of domains with my personal address on them, and the worst thing that I got was junk mail. The private registration fee really adds up after a while - you might wanna look into a PO box as it may be cheaper - especially if you start getting more than one domain.
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Inventor
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| Posted: Mon Sep 24, 2012 3:20 am Post subject: |
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I think I paid like $9.98 a year at godaddy, There are reasons to not put contact information out there. As for cover their ass contracts, check I Accept, and do not read it, just like all the others.
In my case it is with intent of not being found by terrorists, and leaving no record when I transfer it from personal property to company property. I am building several web sites that are not yet ready for public viewing, and the paperwork on company property, business, tax deductions, is not worth it.
So I just do it out of pocket, but can value it when transferred to the business.
I intend to transfer all intellectual property to the company, so it has no involvment in my personal income. I may be the sole owner, but there is a clear boundry of who owns what. The company is better able to write off new computers, leases, other expenses.
As for just being out in public, after several thousand Ebay transactions, which give it all out, I got one phone call from a customer with questions.
Of course that does have to do with what you put on your site, Religious cartoons, go private. |
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StuartN
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| Posted: Tue Sep 25, 2012 10:09 am Post subject: |
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| Inventor wrote: | | Of course that does have to do with what you put on your site, Religious cartoons, go private. |
That is similar to my problem. I sometimes post things that some individuals get very upset about. I have not had a death threat in the last few years, but I have in the past. I was actually more concerned about being liable for what those individuals would post on my site, if I ever enable comments. |
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sliqua-jcooter
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| Posted: Tue Sep 25, 2012 1:13 pm Post subject: |
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| StuartN wrote: | | Inventor wrote: | | Of course that does have to do with what you put on your site, Religious cartoons, go private. |
That is similar to my problem. I sometimes post things that some individuals get very upset about. I have not had a death threat in the last few years, but I have in the past. I was actually more concerned about being liable for what those individuals would post on my site, if I ever enable comments. |
If you're in a country where you're not liable (US, EU, etc) - then you're not liable. If you *are* in a country where you're liable, then hiding your contact details isn't going to help that.
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StuartN
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| Posted: Tue Sep 25, 2012 3:40 pm Post subject: |
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| sliqua-jcooter wrote: | | If you're in a country where you're not liable (US, EU, etc) - then you're not liable. If you *are* in a country where you're liable, then hiding your contact details isn't going to help that. |
Sorry, I meant "held responsible" (in a broader sense), not "liable" - as in getting hate mail or worse in response to what other people might put in their comments, if I enabled commenting.
I am inclined to leave the listing public, because the alternatives are more complicated and more expensive. |
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Jtuk
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| Posted: Tue Sep 25, 2012 6:02 pm Post subject: |
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Register a .CO.UK, EU law means that private citizens have data protection rights. So, you can have a .CO.UK registrant information hidden. It'll only show your name.
Jason. |
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StuartN
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| Posted: Wed Sep 26, 2012 11:31 am Post subject: |
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| Jtuk wrote: | | Register a .CO.UK, EU law means that private citizens have data protection rights. So, you can have a .CO.UK registrant information hidden. It'll only show your name. |
The ISP offers private registration, but all websites have to provide some means of contacting the website author / administrator. Private registration (with the ISP as a proxy contact) involves agreeing to a set of complex terms and conditions that include some very steep fees for forwarding mail and comments on to me as a private registrant. The fees would exceed the annual ISP charges if they forwarded just two items of correspondence. |
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Cornflake
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| Posted: Wed Sep 26, 2012 12:53 pm Post subject: |
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The purchase of my '.me.uk' domain had the option to omit personal details at no extra cost, with no mention of what happens if someone actually wanted to contact me about the site - so I assume the registrar just takes it all on-board as required.
The public whois record for it says, in part: | whois wrote: | Registrant:
(my real name)
Registrant type:
UK Individual
Registrant's address:
The registrant is a non-trading individual who has opted to have their
address omitted from the WHOIS service. |
Registered via http://www.123-reg.co.uk FWIW, although I understand this is a standard option for '.me.uk' domains at least.
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Inventor
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| Posted: Wed Sep 26, 2012 4:40 pm Post subject: |
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If someone wants to contact a web site, at the least there is a "contact webmaster" at the bottom of the page.
Even Copyright infringment goes through the ISP, so perhaps they might have some reason.
I would leave direct message to your email, I post mine on the site. Email is a bit harder to track than URL. |
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