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Posted: Sun Mar 10, 2013 9:17 pm Post subject:
the article raises some interesting points.
Therein exposes the inherent racism within the right wing, despite their common hatred of egalitarianism, socialism and equality to the right wing islamists will never be 'equal' or potential allies purely for the skin deep differences. _________________ Being 'normal' is over rated.
Joined: Feb 26, 2006 Posts: 26056 Location: Lancashire, UK
Posted: Sun Mar 10, 2013 10:44 pm Post subject:
thomas81 wrote:
the article raises some interesting points.
Speaking of the neo-Nazis, a number of neo-Nazis and (white) Holocaust deniers have converted to Islam over the years. David Myatt, Roger Garaudy, Johann Leers, Ahmed Huber...
thomas81 wrote:
Therein exposes the inherent racism within the right wing, despite their common hatred of egalitarianism, socialism and equality to the right wing islamists will never be 'equal' or potential allies purely for the skin deep differences.
They have hatred of Jews for being Jews in common.
In fact, Islamism is surprisingly similar in its worldview to Nazism. They're both totalitarian ideologies that desire world domination, and they both have a hatred of Jews at their centre.
Incidentally, I wish him the best of luck. I hope he is able to leave Islam easily and is not threatened or bullied if he decides it's not for him, which might well be the case if he spends a lot of time in fundamentalist Salafist type circles. Strictly speaking under Islamic law he is not allowed to covert away from Islam.
Joined: Mar 23, 2009 Posts: 4456 Location: The shooting range
Posted: Mon Mar 11, 2013 3:03 am Post subject:
thomas81 wrote:
the article raises some interesting points.
Therein exposes the inherent racism within the right wing, despite their common hatred of egalitarianism, socialism and equality to the right wing islamists will never be 'equal' or potential allies purely for the skin deep differences.
Hatred of socialism, yes; equality, no; and egalitarianism, it's complicated. Most of the right favors equal opportunity, but not any entitlement to equal out come. Not only does attempting to force equal outcome paradoxically require people in a position to assert their will over others, but all the variations in intelligence, aptitude for job skills, variations in social skills, and luck with relationships, it all leads up to there will never be a logical end in concluding what determines if everyone has been given an equal lot in life.
Egalitarians more advanced than scavengers at the mercy of their environment only exist in science fiction.
_________________ "Gun control is like trying to reduce drunk driving by making it tougher for sober people to own cars."
- Unknown
"A fear of weapons is a sign of retarded sexual and emotional maturity."
-Sigmund Freud
Therein exposes the inherent racism within the right wing, despite their common hatred of egalitarianism, socialism and equality to the right wing islamists will never be 'equal' or potential allies purely for the skin deep differences.
Hatred of socialism, yes; equality, no; and egalitarianism, it's complicated. Most of the right favors equal opportunity, but not any entitlement to equal out come. Not only does attempting to force equal outcome paradoxically require people in a position to assert their will over others, but all the variations in intelligence, aptitude for job skills, variations in social skills, and luck with relationships, it all leads up to there will never be a logical end in concluding what determines if everyone has been given an equal lot in life.
Egalitarians more advanced than scavengers at the mercy of their environment only exist in science fiction.
When it comes to opposing entitlement to equal outcome, that's only common sense with individuals. But unfortunately, whole races of people have been denied legal protection ensuring equal opportunities, by the implication that they are intellectually or spiritually inferior.
Joined: Mar 23, 2009 Posts: 4456 Location: The shooting range
Posted: Mon Mar 11, 2013 4:45 am Post subject:
Kraichgauer wrote:
When it comes to opposing entitlement to equal outcome, that's only common sense with individuals. But unfortunately, whole races of people have been denied legal protection ensuring equal opportunities, by the implication that they are intellectually or spiritually inferior.
Globally, the social issues some places are facing make those in the US look trivial. Forced marriages/acid attacks, no freedom of religion, starvation, political oppression, and countless regional wars where Islamic groups and governments are clearly the aggressor even when they meet little resistance. If one wishes to look for legally enforced inequality in societies, the US is not the best place to start looking. _________________ "Gun control is like trying to reduce drunk driving by making it tougher for sober people to own cars."
- Unknown
"A fear of weapons is a sign of retarded sexual and emotional maturity."
-Sigmund Freud
Joined: Feb 26, 2006 Posts: 26056 Location: Lancashire, UK
Posted: Mon Mar 11, 2013 11:33 am Post subject:
Oh, and Islamists despise Communism too, and Socialism, but will be happy to get assistance from parties and groups that have these ideologies if it advances the cause of Islamism.
Islam is meant to be subordinate to nothing and in that sense, anything that is not Islamic is its enemy.
When it comes to opposing entitlement to equal outcome, that's only common sense with individuals. But unfortunately, whole races of people have been denied legal protection ensuring equal opportunities, by the implication that they are intellectually or spiritually inferior.
Globally, the social issues some places are facing make those in the US look trivial. Forced marriages/acid attacks, no freedom of religion, starvation, political oppression, and countless regional wars where Islamic groups and governments are clearly the aggressor even when they meet little resistance. If one wishes to look for legally enforced inequality in societies, the US is not the best place to start looking.
If anything, I was referring to the United States of the past. Our country, I am proud to say, has made genuine and effective strides for equality.
