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25 Dec 2013, 11:17 am

Oh, look - another thread of judgement and hate. Just what the world needed this morning.



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25 Dec 2013, 7:07 pm

Is it me that you think is beign judgemental, or the pastors killing off their flock with AIDS?



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25 Dec 2013, 8:40 pm

People like "Pastor" Joseph Maina of Agmo Prayer Mountain are one of the main reasons that I hate religion. Church leaders like him use superstition to keep the people ignorant and dependent on "The Church" to keep their money flowing in while allowing the church leaders to invoke "God's Judgement" or "God's Mysterious Ways" or "It's all Part of God's Plan" whenever their false promises don't come true.

"We don’t ask for money, but we ask them to leave some seed money..." :roll:

They don't ask for money, but they ask for money. One doesn't need to be judgmental to see that it's all about the money, not God. It's all a scam.

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Margaret Lavonga attended a healing prayer service several years ago. She said she paid money for a prayer cure and nearly ended up dead ... she was asked to pay the equivalent of $12 to be accepted for the healing ceremony and $24 at the end of the ceremony. The pastor then confiscated her drugs and those of four others and set them ablaze.

“We had joined him for crusades around Nairobi slums, telling the people how wonderful the pastor’s miracles were,” she added. “I was upbeat, but after two weeks I started falling sick. When I was tested, the virus was still in me and had multiplied since I was not taking the drugs.”

People had damned well better be judgmental, or more innocent, uneducated and superstitious people will die at the hands of criminals like Joseph Maina.



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26 Dec 2013, 10:43 am

True story:

From 1999 to 2k1, I worked third shift at a gas station on Woodlawn Rd in Charlotte, NC. In Y2K, Benny Hinn had a gigantic 'Faith Healing' event atthe Charlotte Colossium a few mile down the road from where I worked. People drove from all over the Carolinas to spend money to get themselves, and their family members healed by Benny Hinn.

After the first night of feeding horse s**t to the multitudes, er, the Faith Healing I mean, got out, there was a family in my store getting gas for the long drive back to around Wilmington, when their Daughter, who had been 'Faith Heale' personally by Benny Hinn went into a full blown Grand-Mal seizure.


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26 Dec 2013, 8:42 pm

Religious frauds like that are a menace, and should be treated as such by the law.


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26 Dec 2013, 11:38 pm

Willard wrote:
Oh, look - another thread of judgement and hate. Just what the world needed this morning.


People like that deserve our hate. They are throwing sick people under the bus for a few bucks to fund their crazy religion.



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27 Dec 2013, 12:34 pm

Kraichgauer wrote:
Religious frauds like that are a menace, and should be treated as such by the law.


Unfortunately many are protected by the First Amendment. If you gave the government the power to determine was a religious fraud was (as opposed to a plain old bunco fraud) we would soon have government ordained and approved churches. Do you really want that?

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27 Dec 2013, 1:52 pm

ruveyn wrote:
Kraichgauer wrote:
Religious frauds like that are a menace, and should be treated as such by the law.


Unfortunately many are protected by the First Amendment. If you gave the government the power to determine was a religious fraud was (as opposed to a plain old bunco fraud) we would soon have government ordained and approved churches. Do you really want that?

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Don't tempt me. :twisted:


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27 Dec 2013, 2:19 pm

ruveyn wrote:
Kraichgauer wrote:
Religious frauds like that are a menace, and should be treated as such by the law.


Unfortunately many are protected by the First Amendment. If you gave the government the power to determine was a religious fraud was (as opposed to a plain old bunco fraud) we would soon have government ordained and approved churches. Do you really want that?

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Actually no government approved churches, but bulls**t should definately be taxable, as should the properties from whence it emanates.


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