Texts from homophobic mother to Gay son
If the poor kid still lives with his parents, this is child abuse. If he's already moved out, I think this qualifies as stalking and harrassment. Both should be treated as a criminal offense, and both should be tried under hate crime legislation imho. And if a police investigation of a teenage suicide turns up evidence like this, there should be a murder trial.
Reading stuff like this scares me, because I have fears that my mum will try and disown me after what I've posted on my Facebook wall last Thursday. Some things will never change. Nobody chooses to be LGBTQ. Nobody wakes up every morning saying, "I choose to be rejected by my family today."
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What that mother is doing is just f*****g wrong. No one chooses to be gay, and it's certainly not a reasonable thing to get pissed off at someone for, especially if that person happens to be your son. Of course, she isn't just pissed off at him, she's going out of her way to harass and textually abuse him! In many countries, Canada included, her comments alone would possibly constitute hate crimes. I seriously hope that that chick learns some god damn tolerance and realizes that it isn't right to treat her son like that.
Another thing that pisses me off about this situation is how she's seemingly using her religious beliefs to justify her actions and hatefulness. The last time I checked, I thought that tolerance was supposed to be one of the core tenants of Christianity. I mean, when you consider that I'm an atheist and that I have better morals than her, a person who actually has a set ethical code to follow, you know something is f*****g wrong.
And yes, I'm aware that this post seems quite angry and hateful in and of itself, which may seem kind of contradictory. I don't hate people who don't do anything wrong, and hey, there's nothing wrong with being gay, but I can't f*****g stand people who manipulate and abuse other people.
I really dont get it. Around here, people often only have one kid, and the most affecting part for parents, whos kids are outing to be gay is the "But what about my grandkids!" issue.
But as the mum here mentions herself, he is one out of three kids, so I really dont get, what problems she got? O_o
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But as the mum here mentions herself, he is one out of three kids, so I really dont get, what problems she got? O_o
I'm not gay, but at the same time I don't ever plan on getting married or having kids. I've told my dad this, and he brought up the same argument, though at least he's willing to accept that I'm going to do what I'm going to do, and that nothing he says will change my mind. The thing is, I'm not a big fan of small children, nor am I fan of typical North American nuclear family dynamics. I'm also not a big fan of typical, 9-to-5 North American society in general, but that's something for a different thread.
But as the mum here mentions herself, he is one out of three kids, so I really dont get, what problems she got? O_o
I'm not gay, but at the same time I don't ever plan on getting married or having kids. I've told my dad this, and he brought up the same argument, though at least he's willing to accept that I'm going to do what I'm going to do, and that nothing he says will change my mind. The thing is, I'm not a big fan of small children, nor am I fan of typical North American nuclear family dynamics. I'm also not a big fan of typical, 9-to-5 North American society in general, but that's something for a different thread.
Yes, but with heterosexual kids telling, you that they never plan to get kids, its easier for parents to tell themselves: "Oh, thats only an actual issue. That will change when he/she gets older, and finds the right person..." ^^ I think now that my sister is 38, my parents slowly accepted her desicion to have no kids ever as real. While most people actually have accepted, that being homosexual is not "an actual issue" and that people hardly will "decide otherwise later in their life about it". According to your countries laws, specially for homosexual men, this can lead to becoming parents very complicated. (And with homosexual woman, that still makes two woman, but only one "holy biological" *sarcasm* mother, so only one pair of "biological" grandparents.)
Before anyone gets me wrong, I dont have any issues about that, I simply do not understand the arguments of the posted mum, why she is freaking about completely, when the outing of her son, does have no effect on her, not even when it comes to the "grandkids issue". So sje got three kids, if she is bothering for grandkids, that leaves sufficient two for giving that to her, so why the hell is she freaking out like that?
Being christian or not, is not linked to "being forced to act like an as*hole".
My mom is christian too and sings in church-chorus. Conversation to her some years ago: Me: "Is it ok if I visit Saturday?" - Mom: "Oh, saturday does not work. Your dad and I are visiting capital town to see the rainbow parade." .... .... Me: "YOU are visiting the rainbow parade? O_o (My parents could be described as moderate conservatives, so I knew they had no aggressivity toward any homosexuals, but would not have thought on them visiting the rainbow parade.)" Mom: "Oh yes, we went into it on accident two years ago, when we were in capital city. Its great. So there are different groups, having all different kind of colourful costumes, and colourful theme cars matching their costumes and so on.... Itscomparable to an carneval parade as they have on Brazil and really nice... *having an innocent granny simily from ear to ear*" Me: "... ... O_o" Mom: "But the music is a bit too loud! They should reduce the volume a bit."
Christianity is not responsible for peoples bad behavior. Never heard of Jesus telling to act violently and aggressive, towards people not hurting or affecting you.
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Now THAT is just too f**king cool! --Unlike the the one who sent all the above text messages.
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Being christian or not, is not linked to "being forced to act like an as*hole".
My mom is christian too and sings in church-chorus. Conversation to her some years ago: Me: "Is it ok if I visit Saturday?" - Mom: "Oh, saturday does not work. Your dad and I are visiting capital town to see the rainbow parade." .... .... Me: "YOU are visiting the rainbow parade? O_o (My parents could be described as moderate conservatives, so I knew they had no aggressivity toward any homosexuals, but would not have thought on them visiting the rainbow parade.)" Mom: "Oh yes, we went into it on accident two years ago, when we were in capital city. Its great. So there are different groups, having all different kind of colourful costumes, and colourful theme cars matching their costumes and so on.... Itscomparable to an carneval parade as they have on Brazil and really nice... *having an innocent granny simily from ear to ear*" Me: "... ... O_o" Mom: "But the music is a bit too loud! They should reduce the volume a bit."
Christianity is not responsible for peoples bad behavior. Never heard of Jesus telling to act violently and aggressive, towards people not hurting or affecting you.
That reminds me of my own grandmother. She's a devout Catholic, but she's also very liberal and progressive in her views. She has expressed on many occasions that she is against homophobia, and that there is nothing wrong with being gay.