The changing racial makeup of America - 1960 to 2060
Pew Research just released an interesting interactive study about the changing demographics in the US.
It can be found here:
http://www.pewresearch.org/next-america/
A particularly interesting development is the changing racial makeup of US society. I've adapted a few slides from the above link to create the following illustration:
Not only is the US becoming increasingly racially diverse; a more than sixfold increase in interracial marriage frequency since 1960 is likely to make the boundaries between races increasingly blurry.
Please discuss.
1. The 2060 numbers add up to 101%
2. Hispanic is not a race. I work with people from Columbia that speak Spanish but are European Hispanic white people.
Note: The majority of Hispanics In America self-identify as white (52.8%) according to wiki based on the last census).
source, http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mexican_American
3. Asians are the largest, most educated and highest income immigrant group in America (according to Pew Research), and they hardly budge by 2060. Makes me wonder about the projections.
source, http://www.pewsocialtrends.org/asianamericans-graphics/
4. Native Americans are so low they are "other"? Sheesh. Usually they are actually listed.
5. IMO no way the U.S. makes it to 2060 without crashing on its debt, and once the party is over then people won't be coming as much and they may even be leaving. These projections will be found to be way off. At some point the printing of a trillion + dollars per year, and the deficit spending of 500 billion to 2 trillion per year will catch up to us.
Who is to say immigrants do not have moral standards just as high as yours or mine? Do we judge every native born American by the standards of Ted Bundy, Charles Manson or Jeffery Dahmer or do we judge people on their own actions? The same should be said for immigrants Most of the immigrants I know are very hard working family people. I do not judge their morality purely by the fact that they are undocumented.
To me the very act of referring to undocumented people as illegals is an immoral act, because the practice of referring to them as illegals only became mainstream when it became evident that the ratio of dark skinned people in America was beginning to equal or exceed that of Caucasian Americans. The practice of referring to people as illegal was initiated as a means to incite and provoke hostilities. That is how right wing America operates and there is nothing honorable or moral about intentionally trying to promote hostility.
That certainly is not a "Jesus-like" behaviorism.
2. Hispanic is not a race. I work with people from Columbia that speak Spanish but are European Hispanic white people.
Note: The majority of Hispanics In America self-identify as white (52.8%) according to wiki based on the last census).
source, http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mexican_American
This is true. However, Hispanics behave very differently to non-Hispanics. I know Viper has previously suggested the GOP may struggle to win elections in the future because Hispanics, like African-Americans, tend to vote Democrat. This may be explainable by other factors, principally wealth and youth.
source, http://www.pewsocialtrends.org/asianamericans-graphics/
5. IMO no way the U.S. makes it to 2060 without crashing on its debt, and once the party is over then people won't be coming as much and they may even be leaving. These projections will be found to be way off. At some point the printing of a trillion + dollars per year, and the deficit spending of 500 billion to 2 trillion per year will catch up to us.
The better educated and higher income members of society tend to have fewer children...
In any case, I imagine these numbers are principally due to varying birth rates, rather than immigration. As in Britain, France, and Germany, I believe most non-whites in America are natural Americans, rather than immigrants (n.b. I might actually be wrong about some of those countries)? Perhaps it is even true that more whites migrate to America than blacks or Asians?
Who is to say immigrants do not have moral standards just as high as yours or mine?
Morale is happiness or motivation, not morality or ethics. And remember that Kurgan is not American.
That can happen with rounding.
That.
And American Indians ceased to be more than one percent of the US population before 1890 so thats why they dont bother to list them seperately on the graph (they would be microscopic if they tried to).
http://www.policymic.com/articles/87359 ... -beautiful
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I would wonder if Pew Research sees the phenomenal growth of Hispanics to continue, because if yes, then I would think that America will not ultimately be diverse, rather 75% of Americans will be Hispanic in a few hundred years.
I know it sounds funny, but the projected growth rate for Hispanics in 50 years is phenomenal based on that graph; image if it continues for a few hundred years.
I think you've misunderstood my post. Some immigrants seem to think that because people in the west take their wealth for granted, they can do the same once they're on American soil.
Most criminals in Scandinavia aren't fugitives from Syria, but people who were moderately well of back in their home country, and who've come to seek good fortune in Europe.
Who's left wing and who's right wing is besides the point. A lot of people belonging to the European left are antisemittic, for instance. Moreover, I never referred to anyone as "illegal".
Personally, I think Jesus would prefer social liberalism rather than conservatism or socialism.
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A lot of people belonging to the European left are antisemittic, for instance.
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False, and in anticipating your inability to substantiate this claim I will assert why you are wrong.
A lot of European left wingers (many of who are Jewish themselves and share the same views) are critical of Israel because of its oppressive history which is entirely different. I would argue that you could have found worse anti Semites among the centre right or Christian-Zionist lobby because they were the ones who supported the Israel project in the first place with the raison de etre of cajoling the Jews to get out of Europe.
Indeed the idea that Israel should be immune to criticism solely because of its iconography, design or facade of being a Jewish theocracy (when it isn't even that) is anti-semitic unto itself.
I am not sure. I think much of the gospels and new testament suggests that Jesus would find himself more at home among the left than among the self serving sycophants of the centre or right.
Personally, as a white American, I think it's heartbreaking.
Would the Japanese be happy if they're country was going to be more than 50% Oriental in 50 years? Would Mexicans be happy if non-Hispanic whites would be the majority there in 50 years?
But we're all supposed to smile and pretend this is a good thing that's happening to the USA? It's a shame. Are you all too afraid to admit that this is a bit bothersome, or do you live in such heavily insulated white bubbles that you don't know what it's like to become a minority in your home country?
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Would the Japanese be happy if they're country was going to be more than 50% Oriental in 50 years? Would Mexicans be happy if non-Hispanic whites would be the majority there in 50 years?
But we're all supposed to smile and pretend this is a good thing that's happening to the USA? It's a shame. Are you all too afraid to admit that this is a bit bothersome, or do you live in such heavily insulated white bubbles that you don't know what it's like to become a minority in your home country?
Uh, America just doesn't belong to us white guys. Being an American is a matter of culture and values, and obviously citizenship, not tribe or race.
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I have nothing against anyone on an individual basis, but collectively, it won't be the same America with a non-white majority. It's not about how you or I as white Americans feel, but how non-white Americans feel about us.
You live in Spokane, WA, which is over 80% white. You live in a bubble. You probably think Spokane is quite cosmopolitan, which only further displays your lack of comprehension.
Would the Japanese be happy if they're country was going to be more than 50% Oriental in 50 years? Would Mexicans be happy if non-Hispanic whites would be the majority there in 50 years?
But we're all supposed to smile and pretend this is a good thing that's happening to the USA? It's a shame. Are you all too afraid to admit that this is a bit bothersome, or do you live in such heavily insulated white bubbles that you don't know what it's like to become a minority in your home country?
I will try to allay your heartbreak
1. I think the reason that most white American people may not care is because they are so genetically mixed already. They are called "American mutts". Perhaps, part American Indian, part European X, part European Y, part European Z , etc. They likely honor no heritage per se, because they are so mixed (e.g., they might be 1/8 Scottish say, but 1/8 is so small that they are probably not honoring their "Scottish heritage").
2. The above Pew Research projections show white people will still be a majority in 2060 (taking into account that half the Hispanics are white and the 'other' category will be many people who look "white" but are mixed), then "white" will be > 50%.
source, http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Demographi ... ted_States
3. The 2012 U.S. census projections predict white people will be 68.9% of the population in 2060 and that % excludes white people of mixed race. Thus, using the U.S government numbers, the country will be still be 70% or so white in 2060.
source, see "U.S. Census Population projections" category, http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Demographi ... ted_States
4. I would point that in my experience, most of any race seem like "an American" once they speak English and are engaged in the Western lifestyle.
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