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AspergianMutantt
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21 Apr 2014, 10:11 am

http://rt.com/usa/epoch-bison-yellowstone-volcano-909/

The Yellowstone Caldera has got me a little worried.

Its dome generally rises about 3 inches or less a year, in the last year it has raised in some places 10 inches. We just had 3 separated earthquakes of about 3.0 along the edges of the caldera and they happened all at once (on the 30th of last month), and these earthquakes were caused by magma movement. now, this is not unusual for Yellowstone to have now and then tremors, in fact they have smaller ones all the time (thousands in a years time), BUT THIS TIME ANIMALS ARE FLEEING THE PARK. when animals flee an area you know something is wrong,

lets hope it never does erupt , at least not in our or our grand children's children's lifetimes, but keep in mind, its over 40k years over due, and its gotta pop sometime. when it goes off it will be like over 400 Hiroshima sized bombs going off all at once. and thats not the worst of it, it will keep erupting for years.

If that thing ever goes off in my life time, I am going to directly head west to where its most safe then head south to southern Mexico or South America, all of North America will be caught up in a volcanic winter that will last for many years, and the gases it will spew out will kill most everything for hundreds of miles around it, and its ash will wipe out most of the northern and central united states east of the volcano. People will starve in great numbers.

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21 Apr 2014, 10:17 am

Thanks for posting this. I was not aware of this recent activity. The Yellowstone caldera has been an interest of mine since I first learned about it.



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21 Apr 2014, 10:21 am

That could be due to earthquakes rather than a volcanic eruption.

Besides - according to this:

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Yellowstone supervolcano: Videos show animals 'fleeing' but we've nothing to fear


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21 Apr 2014, 10:26 am

The animals are used to earthquakes in that area, and those animals didn't look to be casually migrating, they were running, past traffic even, and they looked to be frightened of something. if it was just the quake they would calm down soon enough, but they were hard at it and kept going. and they were not the only animals leaving, some reports of elk or caribou seen leaving too.

And don't always trust the government, they just want to keep people calm until after the fact.


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21 Apr 2014, 10:52 am

I really don't think it matters either way. If it happens we are screwed. Might as well not worry about it, cause we might have another 20-30 thousand years anyway.



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21 Apr 2014, 12:09 pm

OHHHhhhhhhh sh.........t ! !! !! !! !! !! !!


Been nice knowin' you all!



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21 Apr 2014, 12:15 pm

Toy_Soldier wrote:
I really don't think it matters either way. If it happens we are screwed. Might as well not worry about it, cause we might have another 20-30 thousand years anyway.


Yes that is true, But, if Toba only bottlenecked the human race, where Yellowstone is much smaller, it would be much more survivable. and your right, it has been shown that at its latest or longest sleep can be up to 600,000-800,000 years, so it could sleep another 160,000 years. its average though I think is the 600,000 year cycle. much I think would have to do with how warm the earth is, during ice ages it would take much longer to erupt, but right now the earth is warming greatly. so who knows.

Amount of Material Ejected
Event--------------------Years Ago ---------VEI------cubic km-----cubic miles------Times the size of Mt. St. Helens
Toba Caldera**-----------75,000-----------8--------2800------------ 670---------------2333
Yellowstone Caldera-----640,000-----------7--------1,000------------240-------------- 833
Mount St. Helens------May 18, 1980-------5--------1.2-------------- 0.3----------------1

* VEI is an exponential scale
** Thought to be the largest volcanic eruption in the last 25 million years.


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21 Apr 2014, 12:28 pm

AspergianMutantt wrote:
The animals are used to earthquakes in that area, and those animals didn't look to be casually migrating, they were running, past traffic even, and they looked to be frightened of something. if it was just the quake they would calm down soon enough, but they were hard at it and kept going. and they were not the only animals leaving, some reports of elk or caribou seen leaving too.

And don't always trust the government, they just want to keep people calm until after the fact.


True. They did appear to be running. And true about the Government.


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21 Apr 2014, 12:31 pm

Ever since I saw a story about Yellowstone on National Geographic many years ago, I've been worried about this. And if anyone saw the movie 2012, I imagine the explosion will look similar to that, only MUCH larger.



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21 Apr 2014, 1:12 pm

What has scientists very concerned is that Yellowstone has suddenly begun emitting massive amounts of Helium-4. Helium-4 seems to be the predictor of activity, as proved with other volcanos.

Read more at http://joeforamerica.com/2014/02/warnin ... may-erupt/

What gets me, is the ground/dome swelling as much as it is, and the speed at which its doing it is picking up its pace.
The three 3.^ tremors was post to a greater 4.8 that was reported, just I couldnt find its epicenter or exactly when on any seismic maps (yet).


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21 Apr 2014, 1:58 pm

Now look at the map of nuclear power plants in the US and imagine how many of them, shaken to rubble in the earthquakes, will be melting down and spewing massive amounts of radiation into the air, along with that volcanic ash. Sleep tight. :twisted:



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21 Apr 2014, 2:06 pm

Willard wrote:
Now look at the map of nuclear power plants in the US and imagine how many of them, shaken to rubble in the earthquakes, will be melting down and spewing massive amounts of radiation into the air, along with that volcanic ash. Sleep tight. :twisted:


The closest one is in Washington state and under no threat. other then that there are none even close to the caldera.

http://www.nrdc.org/nuclear/fallout/?gc ... Ogod7UUAsQ


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21 Apr 2014, 2:07 pm

Would we be able to hear or feel the explosion in the UK?

That would be SO AWESOME!! !! !! !! ! (Before anyone has a go at me) The utter destruction and the consequences would be awful, though.

What is the worst case scenario? Do you think it would be big enough to cause a mass extinction? I wonder if they'll name a new period at the end of it.

Nature and its power amazes me. It's so massive.


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21 Apr 2014, 2:10 pm

smudge wrote:
Would we be able to hear or feel the explosion in the UK?

That would be SO AWESOME!! !! !! !! ! (Before anyone has a go at me) The utter destruction and the consequences would be awful, though.

What is the worst case scenario? Do you think it would be big enough to cause a mass extinction? I wonder if they'll name a new period at the end of it.

Nature and its power amazes me. It's so massive.


Ever hear of Krakatoa? it was said to be heard around the world. and that volcano is tiny comparably, so quite possibly yes you may hear it. as for extinction, the northern hemisphere would be devastated and our planet would head into a vary cold era, but not nearly to the extent that the Toba Caldera bottlenecked humanity.

Every since I learned about Yellowstone I been keeping cautious eye on it, visited there when I was a kid of about 8 but didn't realize it was a volcano till I became a young adult. then I was like, Oh Wow, and I am living not far from it.


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21 Apr 2014, 2:16 pm

Toy_Soldier wrote:
I really don't think it matters either way. If it happens we are screwed. Might as well not worry about it, cause we might have another 20-30 thousand years anyway.
I'd agree. Some possibilities are so horrifying and uncontrollable that they come full circle and stop being worth worrying about at all.

Of course, having anxiety myself, I realise this may not be as easy, especially as I live in the UK. As I understand it, we would feel the effects, but not as severely. I'd be a lot more worried if I was closer.

I'm sure they have people monitoring the place, if nothing else, simply because it's a geologically significant area. Hopefully, they would be able to give at least some warning if the time came near.



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21 Apr 2014, 2:16 pm

Youd probably be snuffed out by the gas before the sound even reached you.

But yeah Kratatao was heard 5000 miles away in Madagascar (not quite around the world). Since this will be hundreds of times bigger than Krakatoa you would (if you were still alive) hear it.