Does love exist? Or is it all made up rubbish?

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13 Jul 2014, 12:59 pm

Sometimes I wonder what love is anymore, it seems all there is is deceit, betrayal fighting and attachment for personal gain these days, infatuation and sexual attraction only leading to false promises of being faithful later on along the line. Does love exist? I am starting to see it as non existant, I know compassion and empathy exists but I am unsure about love anymore, I don't think it exists.


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13 Jul 2014, 4:55 pm

only true love is the love "total and complete acceptence without waiver" of a mothers love for her child. All else is relevant depending on each gts out of or puts into the relationship "total and complete acceptence without waver"= love my thoughts



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13 Jul 2014, 4:58 pm

I think it depends on the people involved, or the relationship - but I think that with the right people and so forth genuine love could blossom.



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13 Jul 2014, 5:08 pm

My parents have been married for a very long time, so I like to think that they are still in love. But sometimes I hear stuff about older people getting divorced that scares me. My parents married young, so they don't really know what it would have been like to try out other relationships before they did. But I guess the fact they're still together even though they married so young is a good sign they still love each other.

I, on the other hand, may be asexual, have never truly fallen in love and have no desire to spend the rest of my life with another human being, and will very likely be a virgin the rest of my life. And anyone who thinks that's extremely abnormal for a woman and that I can't possibly be happy without a lover can just drop dead. :evil:



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13 Jul 2014, 5:16 pm

Of course it does. Situations, trends and nonsense can suppress but never destroy such a basic human emotion.



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13 Jul 2014, 6:07 pm

What is your definition of love?



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13 Jul 2014, 6:13 pm

I love my family members and friends, so I can attest to the fact that it does exist. Romantic love is essentially the same emotion, just in a different context.



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13 Jul 2014, 7:47 pm

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HEXWRTEbj1I[/youtube]

or if you're looking for an 80s spin on it:
[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w34vnz_LEX4[/youtube]

Personally, I prefer the Howard Jones song. ;)



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13 Jul 2014, 7:52 pm

em_tsuj wrote:
What is your definition of love?



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13 Jul 2014, 8:40 pm

to borrow a bit from jung, human beings can be a terrible disappointment.



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14 Jul 2014, 12:37 am

Love exists, people just don't know how to.



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14 Jul 2014, 5:26 am

When I hold my little tabby cat close to me and hug her.. I know love certainly exists.



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14 Jul 2014, 5:32 am

When someone questions or denies the existence of 'positive' things such as love I don't actually debate them, but I ask what's bothering them and why. Such questions or denial usually aren't actual questions or denial, but a way to express a negative feeling or state of mind. So why do you ask, AspieOtaku? Do the things you mentioned make you feel disillusioned?


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14 Jul 2014, 5:39 am

Of course love is real. I've felt it before and I hope to feel it again. Unfortunately, falling out of love can be as easy as falling in it. This tends to be one-sided, so one party nearly always ends up getting hurt when that love expires. Plus some people claim to love someone when in fact they feel little more than sexual attraction, usually to use their partner for sex, money, emotional support or a combination of the three. But I have no doubt that lifetime love can and does exist, it's just that most of the world has gone to s**t so it's less common than it used to be


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14 Jul 2014, 11:59 am

Love doesn't exist, at least not between romantic partners. Family members love each other, spouses love each other, humans and pets love each other, even friends love each other (although it's more like comfort and respect than love). But dating partners, no way! It's not love. It's just attraction. The man is attracted to the woman's ability to give him sex, her looks, and her being his guaranteed date for events that require one. The woman is attracted to the man's status/wealth, his ability to protect her, and to the romance he provides (flowers, moonlit walks, etc.). Simply put, the attraction is toward something each person cannot give themselves. A woman will look awkward having a moonlit walk alone, not to mention putting herself in danger. And for a man, masturbating with one's right hand stops being enjoyable very quickly.

Simply put, the item offered by each party cannot be enjoyed without an opposite-sex partner. (I know nothing about same-sex dynamics, so I won't speak on that.) So both parties enter into an unwritten agreement of sorts: each one will give the other what they can give (romance or sex), and collect from the other what they want (sex or romance). It's a rational, albeit somewhat unfair exchange, since providing sex is free, but providing romance is costly. But the system is there, and it works, despite being unfavorable to aspie men. Still, whatever it is, it's certainly not love.



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14 Jul 2014, 12:01 pm

YourMajesty wrote:
When someone questions or denies the existence of 'positive' things such as love I don't actually debate them, but I ask what's bothering them and why. Such questions or denial usually aren't actual questions or denial, but a way to express a negative feeling or state of mind. So why do you ask, AspieOtaku? Do the things you mentioned make you feel disillusioned?
Well, sometimes I don't think true love exists anymore I have been hurt, betrayed, and lied to time and time again I have also observed other couples who end up fighting and lose interest in each other and breaking up.


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