Why domestic violence against men is never taken seriously.

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12 Aug 2014, 12:16 am

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zSj4lvbS_3A[/youtube]This is a first time case scenario it has been taken seriously, I give this judge kudos.


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12 Aug 2014, 12:28 am

Have you been beaten up by a woman before?


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12 Aug 2014, 12:41 am

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Have you been beaten up by a woman before?
Yes I have I have nearly been stabbed several times and have been cut by my ex fiance and have received cigarette burns. My ex was more into mentally abusing me than physically abusing me though the physical abuse was nothing after getting used to the physical pain the mental pain is much worse and lingers she was good at that making me feel worthless useless and no mater what I accomlish she would say that was a waste of time and meaningless and that I would still always be a nobody etc. She would purpously trigger my anxiety attacks and meltdowns for her mere enjoyment, she would laugh at me as I hurt myself as well it got bad to the point to where she egged me on to commit suicide and I attempted it and laughed at me as i slit my wrists and began to lose consciousness, only to wake up in an ambulance later and having to spend 72 hours in a mental institution in a 51/50 hold.


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12 Aug 2014, 1:02 am

You're quite wrong, AspieOtaku. It is very much taken seriously. When a man calls in DV around here, the cops show, and they arrest the woman. If a man calls with an abuse complaint, again, the cops show up, and they do not assume the man's a joker and the woman's the real victim.

I have a feeling you have it fixed in your head that DV against men is long ago, now and forever not taken seriously. So I won't bother bringing it up again, except to say that it just isn't true, what you're saying.



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12 Aug 2014, 1:19 am

AspieOtaku wrote:
Averick wrote:
Have you been beaten up by a woman before?
Yes I have I have nearly been stabbed several times and have been cut by my ex fiance and have received cigarette burns. My ex was more into mentally abusing me than physically abusing me though the physical abuse was nothing after getting used to the physical pain the mental pain is much worse and lingers she was good at that making me feel worthless useless and no mater what I accomlish she would say that was a waste of time and meaningless and that I would still always be a nobody etc. She would purpously trigger my anxiety attacks and meltdowns for her mere enjoyment, she would laugh at me as I hurt myself as well it got bad to the point to where she egged me on to commit suicide and I attempted it and laughed at me as i slit my wrists and began to lose consciousness, only to wake up in an ambulance later and having to spend 72 hours in a mental institution in a 51/50 hold.


Sorry to hear of your woes with women. I hope you find someone who respects you ultimately and lets you rediscover 'a level playing field.'
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12 Aug 2014, 2:05 am

like other things it probably depends on where you live. so in tant's are it might be in others it might not be, just like in some areas people might find racism more ok while in others it will be called out or rarely seen.



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12 Aug 2014, 2:57 am

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You're quite wrong, AspieOtaku. It is very much taken seriously. When a man calls in DV around here, the cops show, and they arrest the woman. If a man calls with an abuse complaint, again, the cops show up, and they do not assume the man's a joker and the woman's the real victim.

I have a feeling you have it fixed in your head that DV against men is long ago, now and forever not taken seriously. So I won't bother bringing it up again, except to say that it just isn't true, what you're saying.
I have seen several cases in DV the man gets arrested instead of the woman regardless of the wounds the man sustains and the woman sustaining none since instantly the male is the culprit regardless. I did not report mine right away out of fear of me being arrested instead and plus they wouldn't believe me they would believe the woman instead so I waited till I had a female witness witness what has happened only then was I able to get a restraining order and get out of that mess.


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12 Aug 2014, 4:41 am

tarantella64 wrote:
You're quite wrong, AspieOtaku. It is very much taken seriously. When a man calls in DV around here, the cops show, and they arrest the woman. If a man calls with an abuse complaint, again, the cops show up, and they do not assume the man's a joker and the woman's the real victim.

I have a feeling you have it fixed in your head that DV against men is long ago, now and forever not taken seriously. So I won't bother bringing it up again, except to say that it just isn't true, what you're saying.



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Estimates of male victimization and reporting data
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As stated before, Northern Ireland police records for the 2012 period listed 2,525 male victims of domestic violence, a large increase of 259 cases compared to the year before with the effects from widespread social campaigning shown.[3] For the U.K. in general, a 2010 article in The Guardian reported that statistical bulletins from the Home Office and the British Crime Survey found that men made up approximately 40% of domestic violence victims each year between 2004?05 and 2008-09. The 2008-09 bulletin stated: "6% of women and 4% of men reported having experienced domestic abuse in the past year, equivalent to an estimated one million female victims of domestic abuse and 600,000 male victims". This figure includes victims that are children and other relatives of a perpetrator, and the study also identified that 75% of perpetrators of domestic violence were male.[14][15]

A 2014 study that surveyed 1,104 British university students found that women were more physically aggressive to their partners than were men and women engaged in significantly higher levels of controlling behavior than men, which significantly predicted physical aggression in both sexes.[16] The main author of the study, Elizabeth Bates, summarized the findings: ?This study found that women demonstrated a desire to control their partners and were more likely to use physical aggression than men. This suggests that intimate partner violence may not be motivated by patriarchal values and needs to be studied within the context of other forms of aggression, which has potential implications for interventions.?[17]

A study by the U.S. Department of Justice in 2000, surveying sixteen thousand Americans, found that 7.4% of men reported being physically assaulted by a current or former spouse, cohabiting partner, boyfriend or girlfriend, or date in their lifetime. Additionally, 0.9% of men reported experiencing domestic violence in the past year,[5] which would equate to about 2.5 million victims per year (using the 2000 census). The likely numbers are, as referred to, even higher.

The American Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC) found in a 2013 report that a large number of men reported being victimized by a partner. To be precise, about 26% of homosexual men, 37% of bisexual men, and 29% of heterosexual men described being a domestic violence victim. Their analysis looked at 2010 data of over 16,000 U.S. adults.[18]

A thirty-two-nation study of university students published in the journal Children and Youth Services stated that "about one-quarter of both male and female students had physically attacked a partner during that year." Also, 7.6% of males surveyed had been subject to "severe assault". The most frequent pattern was that of "bidirectional violence" in which two partners combated each other.[4]

For New Zealand, a 2009 report by the Journal of Applied Social Psychology evaluated samples of university students (35 female, 27 male), general population participants (34 female, 27 male), and also incarcerated participants (15 female, 24 male). The survey found that 16.7% of total male respondents reported physical abuse (12.9% for students and 15.4% for convicts) while 29.5% reported mutual partner violence (14.5% for students and 51.3% for convicts).[1]






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Abuse against men in heterosexual relationships[edit]
In the case of heterosexual couples, female violence is less recognized than male violence.[45] When asked, the women generally used indirect ways to express this and suggested that often when they were violent, it was justified because they were previously victims; the idea of a "primary aggressor" comes from this. This relates the violent attitude of the women to the existence of her background as a victim.[46] Nevertheless, researchers could find standard casual causes of violence, such as experiencing this problem during childhood or adolescence and consumption of illicit substances.[47][48]

According to some authors, males do not complain when their female partner is aggressive because society may influence how they feel, or they are afraid of being ridiculed.[49] Within the sociocultural stereotype of masculinity, it is frequent that some of the victims cover or hide their suffering out of fear of being judged negatively by the rest of society, police (if they complain), or by whatever authority is charged with dealing with these abuses.[50] For some men, this evasive behavior could be justified by fear of feeling ridiculed by their friends or coworkers, or simply out of shyness with their peers, in front of women, or out of fear of people saying that the woman is the real victim, the need of assistance to abandon machismo and to act submissively towards the violence they suffer.[51]


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12 Aug 2014, 8:25 am

Allistics are obsessed about gender.



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12 Aug 2014, 11:59 am

Boo, right, there's good documentation on DV against men, which includes the issue of women fighting back. A major issue is also the question of "how serious is the DV", which I don't really like as a question -- it's all serious -- but it is true that if one partner lands in the hospital or morgue, it's nearly always the woman.

One of the issues seldom addressed in these studies -- that I've seen, anyway -- is the question of being trapped. A problem that we saw a lot when I worked on projects for rural uneducated women and their children was that the guys were globally controlling in their lives. They'd make sure the women had no transportation and no money, and stand in the way of their getting any employment or childcare, which meant that the only option the women had for self-defense was physical -- you'd get a generally violent environment. But yes, the women get arrested.

It's true that there's stigma against calling in the cops to help you against a woman, but I do think that's fading substantially (and that it does vary place to place). On the other hand, women also refrain from calling. They don't want to tell anyone their husband's violent because they don't want to get him in trouble or be in the victim chair themselves; or they don't want to admit it; or they love him and are clinging to the idea that he's not bad at all, it's just he gets upset sometimes; or they're afraid of inviting the attention of the law or CPS; or they're just trying to keep everything stable, because they don't want a divorce -- they don't have anywhere to go, any money, etc. and they've got children. Or, honestly, it doesn't occur to them that there's a problem. I remember calling my ex-husband's social worker to let her know he was going berserk all over the furniture, just because he obviously needed help and was doing poorly, and it flat-out hadn't occurred to me that this was a dangerous situation for me or our daughter. And that was the first thing out of her mouth: you two have to go or he does. She was right.

How much not-calling is there for men v. women? I truly don't know, and am not sure how it'd be assessed unless maybe you polled victims who do call in to find out how many incidents there'd been before they finally made the call. I don't know that that's a valid way of going about it, either.



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13 Aug 2014, 5:45 am

It is taken more seriously today than in the past, but the system still presumes that a man can't be a "victim" of rape or domestic violence...because men are supposed to be able to fight off unwanted advances by an aggressive woman.



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13 Aug 2014, 12:17 pm

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13 Aug 2014, 12:42 pm

/\ What a crappy acting gig for that guy



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13 Aug 2014, 8:20 pm

It's an extremely perplexing topic........ :?


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13 Aug 2014, 9:11 pm

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14 Aug 2014, 2:11 am

tarantella64 wrote:
Boo, right, there's good documentation on DV against men, which includes the issue of women fighting back. A major issue is also the question of "how serious is the DV", which I don't really like as a question -- it's all serious -- but it is true that if one partner lands in the hospital or morgue, it's nearly always the woman.

you don't watch news shows about women who kill then do you. it happens enough to keep a show running for years shwoing episodes weekly. it also appears to happen a lot in my state of Oregon. there was also that case of the woman who drove accross states and stabed her ex lover 40ish times then shot him.

One of the issues seldom addressed in these studies -- that I've seen, anyway -- is the question of being trapped. A problem that we saw a lot when I worked on projects for rural uneducated women and their children was that the guys were globally controlling in their lives. They'd make sure the women had no transportation and no money, and stand in the way of their getting any employment or childcare, which meant that the only option the women had for self-defense was physical -- you'd get a generally violent environment. But yes, the women get arrested.

my brothers wife traps him like that and hits him. guess she doubles down oh and don't forget emotional and mental abuse. there's also stealing his needed medicine. maybe I've just had the honor of meeting most of the horrible women.
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