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15 Aug 2014, 9:15 pm

against the existence of Archons.


Agree or disagree?

And what about their influence on fanatical, irrational, deadly elements in society such as violent fringe groups from Nazism to Zionism and ISIS.

What do you all think?



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15 Aug 2014, 9:42 pm

Would it kill you if you actually told us what an archon is?

Or are you addressing some in-group, and have to speak in secret code?



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15 Aug 2014, 9:53 pm

I got a great video all about it right here:

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2_BnbVfaA0A[/youtube]

They are these aliens from another universe who need negative energy to exist or else they will starve to death. They can enter into someone, possess them, and control this person so they are able to be very destructive, creating a a lot of evil in the world. If you are positive, connected to your true self, you deprive them of food and they die off. Please keep an open mind about this. I don't want a lot of really negative, pointless responses (though it is okay if you do disagree) because it would just be nourishing the Archons if they do indeed exist.

It's kind of like what is in the movies Dark City and The Matrix.



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16 Aug 2014, 9:15 am

Metaphorically speaking- yes Archons might be a useful therapeutic concept if you're interested in conflict resolution.

Literally speaking- no they dont exist.

There was a recently a bestselling novel called "Abraham Lincoln: Vampire Slayer".A tongue-in-cheek (purposely tacky) portrayal of the 13th president as: a chief executive by day- and as a hammer and spike wielding vampire slayer at night.

But it could be taken as a metaphor: the Plantation owners of the south could be viewed as "vampires" living off the human blood of their slaves. So in a metaphorical sense Lincoln could be viewed as a "vampire slayer". Thats the sorta thing Im talking about.



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16 Aug 2014, 11:01 am

Thanks for replying, NaturalPlastic.

First, we don't know if they exist or not. The hypothesis is they leaked into this universe when it was first formed from another so we cannot see them on a broad scale however a few folks have claimed to have seen them in physical form over the Millenia.

They are said to exist physically, spiritually and psychologically. They are physical only in their own universe, though, not in this one because the rules are different here than in their own home.

They feed off negative energy and can enter a human mind and direct it, causing it to say stuff to others that can influence them easily to do evil because they need the negativity to live. This is their connection to irrational acts that just don't make sense, like when Aztecs foolishly believed gods required a blood sacrifice of human life which is rumored to be a product of Archon short circuiting because it just seems totally evil and illogical yet it was accepted by the Aztecs as part of their religion and culture. No one questioned it or thought it was wrong. Occurrences like this is why Archons are believed to set up sham religions that are flimsy facsimiles of the real deal to confuse and misguide people. Anything extreme is said to be under the control of Archons. They are primarily thought to accomplish their goals through religious ideology.

Spiritually, they are likened to demons that possess people however they aren't spirits, they are actually E.T.s.



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16 Aug 2014, 11:05 am

ooOoOoOAnaOoOoOoo wrote:
against the existence of Archons.


Agree or disagree?

And what about their influence on fanatical, irrational, deadly elements in society such as violent fringe groups from Nazism to Zionism and ISIS.

What do you all think?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Russell%27s_teapot



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16 Aug 2014, 11:09 am

It's just a matter of time before someone commits a crime and blame a it on Archons.It will be like the Twinkie defense,an Archon made me do it.


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16 Aug 2014, 11:13 am

It's not a matter of blaming stuff on Archons. It's more about starving them through positive thinking and the higher attributes of humanity like love, compassion, kindness, forgiveness, unity and gnosis. Just like trolls, Archons are said to need the negative energy to live so an Archon event has the potential of ending up big and horrific if it is allowed to build and build without an antidote and we have seen this historically before. It's because the Archons will grow and grow, becoming stronger and stronger the more negative energy there is. It nourishes them.

You might even say certain internet trolls are Archons.

You can interpret it any way you want. One possible explanation is E.T.s but it can be taken as psychological metaphor, too.

Interesting stuff to think about.

People are already whispering about the Archons attempting to control Ferguson, Missouri even though this isn't a religious event. They are not limited to religion even though it's a favorite device of theirs. They can rule through politicians and authority figures, too, entering their minds, infecting them so they can infect others.



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16 Aug 2014, 1:49 pm

I've got proof, you just can't have it. :P


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16 Aug 2014, 1:59 pm

Like a lot of conspiracies of this type it is way from taking responsibility away from person, to some abstract evil force.

It is quite simplistic way of viewing life.



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16 Aug 2014, 2:16 pm

These newfangled special effects movies are warping people's minds.

One WPer is convinced that he lives in a matrix like in The Matrix.

Another one watches some Sci Fi thing starring Russell Crow and he's convinced that aliens are programming the world, and that the whole scientific community is denial by not believing it.

And now Anna thinks that Archons are out to get us.

Get a GRIP folks! They are all just movies!



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16 Aug 2014, 2:33 pm

Actually it is more from a spectrum called Schizotypal spectrum, than movies. Movies merely reflect popular culture, where that stuff is already inherent.

It isn't particularly abnormal or rare either. Most of it is sub-clinical (not that clinical really means much in that context).

Hyper-analytical people like myself if there was nothing there to break out of the layers of deduction analysis would never end. It is the part of brain function that relates to logical leaps, and creative thinking, is necessary to sum up and make reasonable conclusions.

In some people this side of brain function is stronger or more dominant. Therefore they can be more prone to magical thinking and leaps of faith.

Some may actually have a sort deductive capacity, but only after many logical leaps, so they tend to search for thing they want to find.

People like myself might find it harder to understand, but we don't think like they do.



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16 Aug 2014, 2:37 pm

Just like emotions we associate as negative, can have a biological advantage in the right context, and dose (e.g. anxiety), different type of brain function of way of thinking likewise. But it is not absolute, and therefore there isn't a perfect mix.



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16 Aug 2014, 3:47 pm

Let's ask ourselves where these ideas come from. Why would it become cultural practice to sacrifice anything to a god? Why would a god command humans kill humans (as we have seen many wars have started due to various factions of the Lord fighting each other in bloody battles.) All of it seems illogical yet it happened and it wasn't just one evil, vile corrupt man who did it. It is often a large movement of evil that spreads like a contagion without people realizing they are sick. Don't you question this and find it odd? What if the explanation is a parasite that needs certain conditions in order to survive and it is able to direct certain individuals to create these conditions much like some viruses alter the behavior of the host so that it can find more hosts.

It is not a matter of blaming, more a matter of curing, right? It's always possible. Why are people so quick to say something is not likely. 300 years ago no one would ever guess the way we live right now, with electricity, television, phone, computer, internet, all the luxuries of modern life. If I told them about it they would say what some of you are saying about Archons, it isn't possible and just wishful fantasy. The way our reality is shaped today suggests so much is possible even if we do not wish to believe it is.



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16 Aug 2014, 3:50 pm

naturalplastic wrote:
These newfangled special effects movies are warping people's minds.

One WPer is convinced that he lives in a matrix like in The Matrix.

Another one watches some Sci Fi thing starring Russell Crow and he's convinced that aliens are programming the world, and that the whole scientific community is denial by not believing it.

And now Anna thinks that Archons are out to get us.

Get a GRIP folks! They are all just movies!


Hah! You can scoff, but Just wait until an artificially engineered virus escapes from a US research lab and turns us all into rabid zombies roaming around eating brains. :P


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16 Aug 2014, 4:09 pm

ooOoOoOAnaOoOoOoo wrote:
Let's ask ourselves where these ideas come from. Why would it become cultural practice to sacrifice anything to a god? Why would a god command humans kill humans (as we have seen many wars have started due to various factions of the Lord fighting each other in bloody battles.)


Basically we attributed natural events to gods or higher entities in pre-history. The relationship was rather immediate and less abstract than it became later. It it was pretty straightforward association, based on what little we know about the world a the time.

Actually pre-history religion and morality weren't necessarily linked. Gods weren't necessarily liked, worship was born out of necessity. or so they thought. It also an early example of meme, which like it or not are an important fabric of societies.

Why are we violent? Why are chimpanzees violent? Animal behavior, testosterone, territory and sexual aggression.

The rest of what you post is the "leap" part. You re saying becuase of this you need the explanation you offer, but actually this is a fallacy.