Why can't this crap happen 100 years from now when I'm dead?

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07 Sep 2014, 12:05 pm

Why do I feel like there is a greater chance of the world ending as we know it in my lifetime? It isn't really fair. It makes me depressed. Christians also are talking more about the rapture everyday.



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07 Sep 2014, 12:11 pm

The rapture is all in their imagination; unless one of those end-of-the world nutjobs ends up with their sticky fingers on the nuke launch buttons and decides to make it a self fulfilling prophecy.


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07 Sep 2014, 12:17 pm

Jesus didn't even get the end of the world right and some yo yo follower of his is going to get it right?

If you want to panic think about the nuclear arsenals, as mentioned above, asteroid impacts, solar storms, gamma ray bursts, supervolcanos or airborne ebola. Plenty of ways to end the world as we know it without resorting to magic. Besides, the Leprechaun army is almost here.



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07 Sep 2014, 12:21 pm

We're all going to die anyway.



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07 Sep 2014, 12:24 pm

If the end of the world comes it comes, I'm certainly not going to worry about it. If it was suddenly revealed that we were going to be hit with a massive asteroid tomorrow that would wipe out all life on the planet, I would still go about my day as normal, cook lunch, maybe do some weeding in the garden, work on some software etc. As the asteroid finally approached I'd probably pull up a chair outside and watch the spectacle of it entering the atmosphere for my last few moments of life.


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07 Sep 2014, 1:16 pm

K_Kelly wrote:
Why do I feel like there is a greater chance of the world ending as we know it in my lifetime? It isn't really fair. It makes me depressed. Christians also are talking more about the rapture everyday.


Fear mongering is a mechanism of propaganda. It discourages critical thought, and causes the people turn to their leaders for guidance. This obviously does not mean that what we're hearing about ebola et al. is untrue (although, it might be untrue), but it's worth considering whether a news outlet which believed in the democratic and power checking functions of the 4th estate would ratchet up fear to the maximum on so many issues which the public is powerless to do anything about. My feeling is that they would not do that. Feel free to disagree.

Naomi Klein's work on the propaganda strategy of shock, might provide some explanation as to why so many potentially world ending catastrophes seem to be happening all at once:

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The book argues that libertarian free market policies (as advocated by the economist Milton Friedman) have risen to prominence in some developed countries because of a deliberate strategy by some political leaders. These leaders exploit crises to push through controversial exploitative policies while citizens are too emotionally and physically distracted by disasters or upheavals to mount an effective resistance. The book implies that some man-made crises, such as the Iraq war, may have been created with the intention of pushing through these unpopular policies in their wake.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Shock_Doctrine

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07 Sep 2014, 3:03 pm

K_Kelly wrote:
Why do I feel like there is a greater chance of the world ending as we know it in my lifetime? It isn't really fair. It makes me depressed. Christians also are talking more about the rapture everyday.


Thats the point. Why would the Universe choose to come to an end in your lifetime? Its a bit egotistical of one to ignore that the odds are against that- even if you're a young earth creationist. If you are a YEC the odds are 100 to one. For folks who are not evolution deniers the odds are millions to one against it all ending in your lifetime.



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07 Sep 2014, 3:11 pm

Some intel from the co-prophet of the end times.

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aYBs5BrmgpY[/youtube]



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07 Sep 2014, 4:25 pm

K_Kelly wrote:
Why do I feel like there is a greater chance of the world ending as we know it in my lifetime? It isn't really fair. It makes me depressed. Christians also are talking more about the rapture everyday.


No. Life isn't fair.

The Christians have been predicting the end since Jesus's time. So far they are zero times right and like several thousand guesses wrong. That's a real bad track record, I wouldn't put too much stock in what they say.



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07 Sep 2014, 5:59 pm

Cash__ wrote:
K_Kelly wrote:
Why do I feel like there is a greater chance of the world ending as we know it in my lifetime? It isn't really fair. It makes me depressed. Christians also are talking more about the rapture everyday.


No. Life isn't fair.

The Christians have been predicting the end since Jesus's time. So far they are zero times right and like several thousand guesses wrong. That's a real bad track record, I wouldn't put too much stock in what they say.


Which is hilarious in retrospect, because if they actually took the time to read their own book. For example Matthew 24:36-37 you would think that they would stop guessing by now.


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07 Sep 2014, 6:33 pm

Interestingly, Nuclear wars could be a self-fulfilling prophecy of that 'thought', at the levels of decision making terrorist folks, in some small fashion.

But, actually death in general means the end of the world, and we in the USA have an amazing track record of avoiding that.

Additionally, specifically, overall, death from wars are at their lowest levels ever according to research, and yes, we have nuclear war technology to thank for that,
at least in part.

So realistically, war being the way most lives end per historical record, other than accidents and diseases, it's less likely that your life will end, in this way; but still, driving a vehicle is the most dangerous thing any of us do, on average. If you are really scared about the end of the world, you might consider walking instead of driving if you can, but it's not a realistic option for most folks in society these days.

Seriously, there is more to worry about in driving a vehicle than what religious conspiracy theorists propose in history or today. It sells seats in pews, and that's about it, other than causing worry, or a common topic of fear for folks to discuss who are overall dissatisfied with their life, as is.

Yes indeed and in deed, misery loves company; that part never changes as it is human nature for those who do not understand their nature, and practice it as such, with understanding.


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07 Sep 2014, 8:08 pm

Brainfre3ze_93 wrote:
Cash__ wrote:
K_Kelly wrote:
Why do I feel like there is a greater chance of the world ending as we know it in my lifetime? It isn't really fair. It makes me depressed. Christians also are talking more about the rapture everyday.


No. Life isn't fair.

The Christians have been predicting the end since Jesus's time. So far they are zero times right and like several thousand guesses wrong. That's a real bad track record, I wouldn't put too much stock in what they say.


Which is hilarious in retrospect, because if they actually took the time to read their own book. For example Matthew 24:36-37 you would think that they would stop guessing by now.


No man knows the day nor hour, not the angels, not the Son, but only the Father. Is that what you're talking of? Yeah, I think the Bible is pretty clear. Jesus himself thought that the End would come in the lifetimes of the people listening to him. Christians tend to ignore that, since the Son of God isn't supposed to be wrong. They also ignore that part (Matthew 5, I think) where Jesus calls people who pray on street corners "hypocrites", and suggests to go in your room and close the drapes and pray secretly, "and the Father who sees you pray in secret shall reward you openly". Stuff like that is why I don't like to be called a "Christian", since "Christianity" is a LONG ways from what Jesus taught. If you look at the Nag Hammadi books, you will see that early Christians had vastly different concepts of Jesus. What happened was that some guy named Saul thought he heard God talking to him, and God said that Saul should call himself Paul and proclaim to the world that Jesus was God's Son, and that all one had to do to be "saved" was to "accept in his heart" this "fact". Eventually, Saul/Paul's version won out, and then his devotees simply killed everybody else who thought differently. If not for Saul/Paul, Christianity would have been wiped out in the Great Revolt, and we'd all be praying to Mithras most likely.



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08 Sep 2014, 7:55 am

pezar wrote:
Brainfre3ze_93 wrote:
Cash__ wrote:
K_Kelly wrote:
Why do I feel like there is a greater chance of the world ending as we know it in my lifetime? It isn't really fair. It makes me depressed. Christians also are talking more about the rapture everyday.


No. Life isn't fair.

The Christians have been predicting the end since Jesus's time. So far they are zero times right and like several thousand guesses wrong. That's a real bad track record, I wouldn't put too much stock in what they say.


Which is hilarious in retrospect, because if they actually took the time to read their own book. For example Matthew 24:36-37 you would think that they would stop guessing by now.


No man knows the day nor hour, not the angels, not the Son, but only the Father. Is that what you're talking of? Yeah, I think the Bible is pretty clear. Jesus himself thought that the End would come in the lifetimes of the people listening to him. Christians tend to ignore that, since the Son of God isn't supposed to be wrong. They also ignore that part (Matthew 5, I think) where Jesus calls people who pray on street corners "hypocrites", and suggests to go in your room and close the drapes and pray secretly, "and the Father who sees you pray in secret shall reward you openly". Stuff like that is why I don't like to be called a "Christian", since "Christianity" is a LONG ways from what Jesus taught. If you look at the Nag Hammadi books, you will see that early Christians had vastly different concepts of Jesus. What happened was that some guy named Saul thought he heard God talking to him, and God said that Saul should call himself Paul and proclaim to the world that Jesus was God's Son, and that all one had to do to be "saved" was to "accept in his heart" this "fact". Eventually, Saul/Paul's version won out, and then his devotees simply killed everybody else who thought differently. If not for Saul/Paul, Christianity would have been wiped out in the Great Revolt, and we'd all be praying to Mithras most likely.


Yeah that's exactly what I meant.


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08 Sep 2014, 12:49 pm

K_Kelly wrote:
Why do I feel like there is a greater chance of the world ending as we know it in my lifetime? It isn't really fair. It makes me depressed. Christians also are talking more about the rapture everyday.

You must watch CNN. Christians are like a bunch of giddy schoolgirls in their anticipation of the rapture. The world is unlikely to end, but societies may collapse.



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08 Sep 2014, 1:44 pm

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Why do I feel like there is a greater chance of the world ending as we know it in my lifetime?


Every generation in recorded history has thought precisely that. Reagan was certain of it, as was Bush Sr, and both were perfectly open about it. It had a large influence on their dismissive policies regarding non-renewable resources and the future of the economy and the national debt, not to mention policies on the funding of radical extremist groups they never thought we'd still be around to worry about.

Everyone thinks the world is getting worse and worse, despite much evidence to the contrary. Even with all the atrocities happening today, the world is overall a safer and more peaceful place than it ever has been in the history of our civilization.


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08 Sep 2014, 2:30 pm

sonofghandi wrote:
Everyone thinks the world is getting worse and worse, despite much evidence to the contrary. Even with all the atrocities happening today, the world is overall a safer and more peaceful place than it ever has been in the history of our civilization.


I don't think that's necessarily true with the world's population increasing by around 75 million each year, which could obviously cause some VERY serious problems quite easily. :?