Ayn Rand Utopia bites the dust

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http://www.addictinginfo.org/2014/09/15 ... mediately/

So, a land scam with an Ayn Rand theme went down, what's the point?

The majority of "Utopias"or communes fall apart pretty quick.Several have come and went in this area.One was female only,another was naked people on horses,then another one with a poetic name.All eventually went belly up,the problem is usually too many Chiefs and not enough Braves.
The one that has survived is in MO,they figured out a way to generate income.Their nut butters are sold all over the states in health food stores.

That's too rich! I know I'll sound like a terrible human being for taking joy in the misfortune of others, but these are the very same people who figured those in need are takers, while they believe they themselves owe nothing to anyone else in society - and it blew up in their faces. I plan to get drunk to celebrate!

The solution is to accept that you can't make a utopia, and to accept the way humans are inclined - which isn't selfishness per se, but selflessness for people within your group and a willingness to screw over anyone outside it if it helps those within it (the monkeysphere). Given that, you have to make sure you develop a system where people won't make decisions that can seriously affect people who are more than two monkeyspheres away - that is, if you make a decision that screws someone over, it will either be your friend, or someone they know. Either way, you've done something that will upset someone who you consider a person, rather than something that affects the nameless, amorphous 1%/benefit scroungers/corporations/them. Which should, at least in my theory, make ou a lot more careful about the decisions you make.

tl;dr - keep political units at 20-40k people, such that a large majority of the population will have mutual friends.

This isn't, despite what many people will claim, difficult. The Most Serene Republic of San Marino is over 1700 years old, and has a population of 32k. It's doing fine. There have been republics, such as the Republic of Indian Stream, which have had populations of a few hundred. Iceland is doing okay with a population of 300k. That's 0.1% of the USAs. The lesson? Big countries are not needed. The bigger the country, the less affinity there is going to be between the individual citizens, and the more distant the government is going to be. Plus, they're a lot harder to leave, whereas you can walk between city states.

tl;dr - if you have small countries, not only can people make their voices heard a lot easier, but they can leave if they don't like it.

In the context of PPR, this would allow khaoz to live in a city state that bans guns, whilst Raptor and Dox live in ones which allow them. In return, khaoz doesn't try to get guns banned in their cities, and they don't try to get them legalised in his.

I don't have much sympathy for anyone naive enough to believe that some kind of utopia can exist on earth to the point where they invest heavily in it. A fool and his money are soon parted.
Looks like Khaoz's attempt to get the conservatives and libertarians riled up didn't quite pan out.

It failed not because it was an Ayn Rand themed utopia but rather because Chile (like every other place on earth) isn't. It failed because of government regulations in Chile. There are government regulations everywhere. You can't escape them simply by moving away from your own country. It is a bit ironic.

It was also a scam since the original man setting it up had no authority to do so. The duped investors suing him say that he knew this.

Its failure is not because intentional communities are impossible (although utopias are). They exist all over the place. But they have to take governmental regulations into account when setting up. Being Ayn Rand themed doesn't negate that need.

From the linked article:

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Sounds like Randians are so infatuated with the old bitty's call to be free from government and it's regulations that they allowed themselves to become divorced from reality in denying that said regulations have any influence on them.