Australian Government To Allow Torture of Suspects.

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19 Sep 2014, 9:03 pm

...and jail Journalists for up to 10 years for reporting stories which are linked to a special intelligence operation.

http://www.theguardian.com/world/2014/sep/19/asio-torture-warning-fears-new-powers-will-allow-suspects-to-be-harmed

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Section 35K of the bill, entitled ?Immunity from liability for special intelligence conduct during special intelligence operations?, exempts operatives from civil or criminal prosecution in the course of their work.

This exemption from the law would only apply, the bill states, if ?the conduct does not involve the participant engaging in any conduct that causes the death of, or serious injury to, any person; or involves the commission of a sexual offence against any person; or causes significant loss of, or serious damage to, property?.


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There are also fears about the legislation?s implications for the freedom of the press to report anti-terrorism activities. The bill stipulates a prison term of 10 years where ?disclosure of the information will endanger the health or safety of any person or prejudice the effective conduct of a special intelligence operation?.


http://www.abc.net.au/news/2014-08-15/bureaucrats-attempt-to-calm-fears-over-media-spy-laws/5674526

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The proposed legislation suggests the new power is in part a response to the damaging leaks by former US spy agency contractor Edward Snowden.


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Responding to questioning by Labor Senator Penny Wong, the department's senior legal officer Christina Raymond said journalists could face penalties even if they did not explicitly know what they were reporting on was linked to a special intelligence operation.

"You don't have to have actual knowledge but you do have to have an awareness of a risk [that the material was linked to a special intelligence operation], so more than just a fleeting possibility, something quite substantial," she said.


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19 Sep 2014, 9:37 pm

has this been passed or is it just being considered? i feel sorry for australia.



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19 Sep 2014, 9:55 pm

I don't see any other problem than someone being spooked by reading too much between the lines.



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19 Sep 2014, 10:02 pm

It hasn't been passed yet.



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19 Sep 2014, 10:47 pm

Humanaut wrote:
I don't see any other problem than someone being spooked by reading too much between the lines.
Then enjoy the growing trend of democratic governments toward growing tyrany.



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19 Sep 2014, 11:00 pm

A purely fictional trend.



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20 Sep 2014, 12:45 am

Humanaut wrote:
A purely fictional trend.


Well, that's a relief :roll:



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20 Sep 2014, 2:20 am

Don't take my word for it, but let me know if you happen to stumble upon any tyrants.



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20 Sep 2014, 10:31 am

perhaps it is just hard to see it from norway



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20 Sep 2014, 2:53 pm

I can see clearly from here. Lots of clean air. No chemtrails.



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22 Sep 2014, 6:34 pm

Tollorin wrote:
Humanaut wrote:
I don't see any other problem than someone being spooked by reading too much between the lines.
Then enjoy the growing trend of democratic governments toward growing tyrany.

The legislation being debated is in response to tyrannical acts committed against Australia. Other democratic countries are in the firing line as well. How would you respond if your countries citizens were kidnapped by extremists and publically beheaded on U-Tube?



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22 Sep 2014, 7:07 pm

Well, I'm all for throwing journalists in jail.



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22 Sep 2014, 7:29 pm

Dillogic wrote:
Well, I'm all for throwing journalists in jail.


Which journalists?

The loony left wing journalists from the Guardian newspaper who completely misrepresent what the Australian government is doing, or the loony Tea Party journalists from the Murdoch press who promote racial disharmony?



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22 Sep 2014, 7:33 pm

Well, that's easy.

All of them.



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23 Sep 2014, 12:22 am

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26 Sep 2014, 5:20 pm

Update: The torture provisions were taken out. The ten year prison sentences for journalists and whistleblowers are still in.

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Anyone ? including journalists, whistleblowers and bloggers ? who "recklessly" discloses "information ... [that] relates to a special intelligence operation" faces up to 10 years' jail.

Any operation can be declared "special" and doing so gives ASIO criminal and civil immunity. Many, including lawyers and academics, have said they fear the agency will abuse this power.

Those who identify ASIO agents could also face a decade in prison under the new laws, a tenfold increase in the existing maximum penalty.

The new laws also allow ASIO to seek just one warrant to access a limitless number of computers on a computer network when attempting to monitor a target, which lawyers, rights groups, academics and Australian media organisations condemned.


http://www.independentaustralia.net/pol ... rayal,6939

I guess that's it for Wikileaks.