How would you put together a space program?

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20 Sep 2014, 1:06 pm

By space, I mean astronomy related. I want to do something for a story that pertains to a severely autistic character reaching the stars so to speak. She is obsessed with astronomy and NASA. Anyway, I have this idea where she gets placed into a space program for people with moderate to severe disabilities, mostly related to autism as well. I just can't really think of any activities concerning space they could do though. It keeps nagging at my brain right now, and I'm drawing blanks. :(


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20 Sep 2014, 1:57 pm

LokiofSassgard wrote:
By space, I mean astronomy related. I want to do something for a story that pertains to a severely autistic character reaching the stars so to speak. She is obsessed with astronomy and NASA. Anyway, I have this idea where she gets placed into a space program for people with moderate to severe disabilities, mostly related to autism as well. I just can't really think of any activities concerning space they could do though. It keeps nagging at my brain right now, and I'm drawing blanks. :(


What types of activities?

Anything long term in space would require sustainability for the astronauts which requires several things like rotation for artificial gravity, energy collection, and a biosphere to produce food and scrub/recycle the air.

There are almost endless lines of interesting research to be done in space. Nasa has already started a great many types of experiments.
I tend to like the ones that involve magnetism and energy.
One is the space tether experiment where a multi-insulated conductor is trailed away from the spacecraft for miles, and is pulled through the magnetic field lines of the Earth to produce a current flow in the conductor.
Other experiments involve growing crystals in the absence of the Earth's gravity and magnetic field.



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20 Sep 2014, 2:02 pm

Establish a base on the Moon and go from there. Have to worry about recycled oxygen though.



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20 Sep 2014, 2:51 pm

Well, since it isn't immediately clear why there would be a program for sending moderately to severely disabled people into space, and the whole plot is based on that, wouldn't the story mainly be about explaining that and how they manage to survive and operate the shuttle despite their difficulties? Or are they just getting a ride into space with another crew?



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20 Sep 2014, 3:13 pm

starkid wrote:
Well, since it isn't immediately clear why there would be a program for sending moderately to severely disabled people into space, and the whole plot is based on that, wouldn't the story mainly be about explaining that and how they manage to survive and operate the shuttle despite their difficulties? Or are they just getting a ride into space with another crew?


I don't want to go that far. O_O I was just thinking that maybe they had a sort of experience to be LIKE an astronaut. Like, doing something that would give them a better hope in life.

I kind of like the ideas here so far though. It does give me a better understanding of what to do. XD


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20 Sep 2014, 6:33 pm

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How would you put together a space program?

Without NASA.
Just that alone would prevent a lot of bureaucratic barriers from being erected between the conceptual stage of any space program and actually achieving orbit (or further).


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20 Sep 2014, 6:38 pm

Might be total irreverent. But do you play games ?. kerbal space program is good at sparking ideas . It's like a fun sandbox game with little green men. Helps to spark own ideas and story.

And they are kind disabled silly kerbals.



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21 Sep 2014, 12:39 am

If I were to start a space program, the goal would be subverting the "Treaty on Principles Governing the Activities of States in the Exploration and Use of Outer Space, including the Moon and Other Celestial Bodies" (usually just called "that UN space treaty signed in the '60s"). You see, the treaty made it illegal to claim ownership of anything outside of earth's atmosphere. The only private property in space is whatever you bring up there with you. If I recall correctly, this actually came into play when a man tried to sue NASA or some similar space agency for landing on an asteroid that he claimed ownership of. Needless to say, the suit didn' hold up in court.

The premise would be simple. Currently, the UN wouldn't intervene in anything somebody does in space unless it's something REALLY extreme like attempting to set up a moon base equipped with nuclear weapons (which some people believe the Chinese government has secretly attempted). Of course, as technology becomes more advanced and affordable, having blue helmets in space to enforce these laws would become plausible.

So, the goal would be to establish infrastructure on celestial bodies before such a time as the UN has the capacity to effectively enforce laws out there. I once joked that I wanted to coat the moon in glass floats (like the kind they sell at the beach) so that if anybody tried to land there again without my consent I could claim property damage. In actuality, it wouldn't be nearly as comical though. It would likely take the form of structures being erected from illegally mined material that my organization would claim to have brought from earth. As the structure was allegedly made from material brought from Earth, it would be considered private property even if we don't own the land it's on.

So, basically imagine a big scheme to sell illegally manufactured space condos before the cops show up and you pretty much have my idea of a space program worth funding. Nice profile picture by the way. Fluttershy is my favorite pony <3



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21 Sep 2014, 1:21 am

Raptor wrote:
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How would you put together a space program?

Without NASA.
Just that alone would prevent a lot of bureaucratic barriers from being erected between the conceptual stage of any space program and actually achieving orbit (or further).

Any organisation able to put out a manned space program with today technology, either public or private, have to be so big that it can only be a bureaucracy nightmare.

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If I were to start a space program, the goal would be subverting the "Treaty on Principles Governing the Activities of States in the Exploration and Use of Outer Space, including the Moon and Other Celestial Bodies" (usually just called "that UN space treaty signed in the '60s"). You see, the treaty made it illegal to claim ownership of anything outside of earth's atmosphere. The only private property in space is whatever you bring up there with you. If I recall correctly, this actually came into play when a man tried to sue NASA or some similar space agency for landing on an asteroid that he claimed ownership of. Needless to say, the suit didn' hold up in court.

The premise would be simple. Currently, the UN wouldn't intervene in anything somebody does in space unless it's something REALLY extreme like attempting to set up a moon base equipped with nuclear weapons (which some people believe the Chinese government has secretly attempted). Of course, as technology becomes more advanced and affordable, having blue helmets in space to enforce these laws would become plausible.

So, the goal would be to establish infrastructure on celestial bodies before such a time as the UN has the capacity to effectively enforce laws out there. I once joked that I wanted to coat the moon in glass floats (like the kind they sell at the beach) so that if anybody tried to land there again without my consent I could claim property damage. In actuality, it wouldn't be nearly as comical though. It would likely take the form of structures being erected from illegally mined material that my organization would claim to have brought from earth. As the structure was allegedly made from material brought from Earth, it would be considered private property even if we don't own the land it's on.

So, basically imagine a big scheme to sell illegally manufactured space condos before the cops show up and you pretty much have my idea of a space program worth funding. Nice profile picture by the way. Fluttershy is my favorite pony <3

As private industry begin to be interested in asteroid ming, the treaty will likely eventually be changed.