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khaoz
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15 Oct 2014, 4:29 am

Be careful the stormtroopers on the right with their pocketed mods dont silence and shut down genuine discourse. They feel threatened by the most mundane s**t, but the are loud, crude, vile and relentless in their denial of truth



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15 Oct 2014, 5:21 am

Overall I don't like the community on PPR. It seems as though a lot of issues are discussed with this threatening undercurrent. As if, you're a traitor if you disagree "and you know what we do with traitors". That sort of thing. It's completely horrible.



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15 Oct 2014, 5:30 am

Many of my ideas get dismissed as nonsense, and it is frustrating, so what is the point.

-My topic on math anti-realism, dismissed as nonsense by some.
-My research about Prometheus (pre-determined evolution based on 'seeding'), dismissed as nonsense by many, and called many insults.
-My discourse on QM at the macro level (despite citing Scientific America & Yale physics professor Shankar's class on youtube), dismissed as nonsense by some.
-My topic on whether divergence exists in reality, no one took much interest also wrongly moved to 'math' when it is a philosophical question
-My topic on 'Multiple hand Single Event Blackjack', dismissed as nonsense by some Only one person, after much math explanation recognized the difference between calculating a weighted expectancy (blackjack probability over the long run) and a non-weighted expectancy (blackjack probability per a single event).
-My discourse on the Teleological argument 'Fine Tuning" *sigh* I cite right from the wikipedia page, and I was told I was 'quoting out of context' and "intellectual dishonest".

I have philosophical math topics I would like to explore, like
-whether philosophically gambling should be legal or not (given that at best a 43% chance to win at blackjack, and 49% on craps pass line)
-the randomness of pseudo random number generators

Part of it is my fault though cause perhaps I don't explain my ideas well enough. However, what is the point? See the pattern ?



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15 Oct 2014, 6:05 am

LoveNotHate wrote:

-whether philosophically gambling should be legal or not (given that at best a 43% chance to win at blackjack, and 49% on craps pass line)


That sounds like an interesting thread. I'd like to see research comparing the probabilities for many different types of gambling games. At the very least, maybe it would dissuade a few people from wasting their money on gambling. I've seen a few WP users admit that they buy scratch-off tickets. It's a terrible habit and always leads to losses in the long run.

As for sports betting, it's usually a bad idea, but it depends on the sport. I've made consistent profit on boxing events, but that's because it's the only sport I watch. I've learned enough about how particular fighting styles clash to predict the correct winners most of the time. I don't recommend it for most people.



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15 Oct 2014, 6:11 am

Doesn't seem all that "right" to me.

Kinda an even split between the two main groups, the hippies, the lone commie, the libertarians, the bits of everything, and the super-cool Dill.



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15 Oct 2014, 10:11 am

Does anyone know what Khaoz is talking about?


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15 Oct 2014, 10:34 am

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Does anyone know what Khaoz is talking about?

As far as I can tell, http://www.wrongplanet.net/postt268125.html



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15 Oct 2014, 10:56 am

The_Walrus wrote:
Raptor wrote:
Does anyone know what Khaoz is talking about?

As far as I can tell, http://www.wrongplanet.net/postt268125.html


Id almost be willing to bet this one gets locked, too.....


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15 Oct 2014, 12:29 pm

mezzanotte wrote:
LoveNotHate wrote:

-whether philosophically gambling should be legal or not (given that at best a 43% chance to win at blackjack, and 49% on craps pass line)




Was just gonna say that "I'm sorry I missed that one. It sounds interesting".

Am intrigued by the idea of counting cards.

Blackjack is the one game in casinos thats not 100 percent chance. A skilled player can have a tiny microscopic influence. That influence can be magnified surreptiously with confederates. That was illustrated in the book, and the later move "21" based on the real life exploits of the MIT math nerds who formed a gang to fleece vegas by card counting at the blackjack tables.



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15 Oct 2014, 3:19 pm

Raptor wrote:
The_Walrus wrote:
Raptor wrote:
Does anyone know what Khaoz is talking about?

As far as I can tell, http://www.wrongplanet.net/postt268125.html


Id almost be willing to bet this one gets locked, too.....


Locked for no reason, just like the last one. It would make you happy to shut up all the Progressives. Which moderator do you tithe?



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15 Oct 2014, 3:27 pm

fwiw khaoz, I think me and you are closer than you may realize at least on foreign policy.



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15 Oct 2014, 3:43 pm

khaoz wrote:
Raptor wrote:
The_Walrus wrote:
Raptor wrote:
Does anyone know what Khaoz is talking about?

As far as I can tell, http://www.wrongplanet.net/postt268125.html


Id almost be willing to bet this one gets locked, too.....


Locked for no reason, just like the last one. It would make you happy to shut up all the Progressives. Which moderator do you tithe?


I just looked at that locked thread. It got locked because you stated that you would not engage in any discourse (a.k.a. "arguing to prove a point"). Genuine discourse isn't being shut down. It's being required.



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15 Oct 2014, 5:23 pm

Sorry for just insulting everyone. I don't really hate this community.



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15 Oct 2014, 5:25 pm

khaoz wrote:
Raptor wrote:
The_Walrus wrote:
Raptor wrote:
Does anyone know what Khaoz is talking about?

As far as I can tell, http://www.wrongplanet.net/postt268125.html


Id almost be willing to bet this one gets locked, too.....


Locked for no reason, just like the last one. It would make you happy to shut up all the Progressives. Which moderator do you tithe?


Yeah I did not know it was required that you debate in topics you post if people disagree....also not sure how its a pointless thread when its pointing out the profit motive of a lot of the military action of the U.S, or how it was posting just to post so don't understand that moderators logic at all appears no real reason.


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15 Oct 2014, 6:49 pm

LoveNotHate wrote:
Many of my ideas get dismissed as nonsense, and it is frustrating, so what is the point.

-My topic on math anti-realism, dismissed as nonsense by some.
-My research about Prometheus (pre-determined evolution based on 'seeding'), dismissed as nonsense by many, and called many insults.
-My discourse on QM at the macro level (despite citing Scientific America & Yale physics professor Shankar's class on youtube), dismissed as nonsense by some.
-My topic on whether divergence exists in reality, no one took much interest also wrongly moved to 'math' when it is a philosophical question
-My topic on 'Multiple hand Single Event Blackjack', dismissed as nonsense by some Only one person, after much math explanation recognized the difference between calculating a weighted expectancy (blackjack probability over the long run) and a non-weighted expectancy (blackjack probability per a single event).
-My discourse on the Teleological argument 'Fine Tuning" *sigh* I cite right from the wikipedia page, and I was told I was 'quoting out of context' and "intellectual dishonest".

I have philosophical math topics I would like to explore, like
-whether philosophically gambling should be legal or not (given that at best a 43% chance to win at blackjack, and 49% on craps pass line)
-the randomness of pseudo random number generators

Part of it is my fault though cause perhaps I don't explain my ideas well enough. However, what is the point? See the pattern ?


Those of us who have discussed these topics with so most certainly see a pattern, you for some reason do not. I see you still have not responded to my question regarding your clear and obvious quoting of me completely out of context. The trouble is you do take things way out of context which makes having a reasoned debate with you impossible, you will quote something or someone as if they support your ideas when in fact the opposite is true. It is not that you do not bring interesting subjects to the table, for example thanks to you I have been delving into the debate surrounding the objectivity vs subjectivity of maths, even though I would like to discuss this, I wont bother because I cannot trust your use of sources to be an honest characterisation of their actual view.


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15 Oct 2014, 8:02 pm

Maybe i'll just say it here.

Often I have fun in PPR, but equally as often I don't, and It makes me stressed. This doesn't really matter in the scheme of things.



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