GOP calls for vigilantes to suppress wisconsin dem vote

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21 Oct 2014, 9:26 pm

http://www.dailykos.com/story/2014/10/2 ... tail=email

for no other genuine reason they are doing this other than to continue to suppress the vote of people likely to vote democratic. so they are calling out for thugs [sorry, "vigilantes"] to do the voter suppression work that the voter ID law was supposed to do but that the court slapped down. if only they would just fess up that voter suppression is what it is all about. the GOP's continued insult to our collective intelligence is galling.



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21 Oct 2014, 11:08 pm

So you are against citizens/voters doing what the law explicitly permits them to do?



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21 Oct 2014, 11:09 pm

eric76 wrote:
So you are against citizens/voters doing what the law explicitly permits them to do?

they have no moral right to intimidate certain voters which is the only reason this is happening. the court told them they could not suppress the democratic vote in this way, so they are just doing an end run.



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22 Oct 2014, 12:46 am

It's your right to observe the polls and Milwaukee has a long history of electoral funny business, nobody is being intimidated. Wake up me up when you have GOP voters sitting outside polling places in combat gear with batons, then it will still probably not be considered intimidation if our DOJ is consistent.



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22 Oct 2014, 12:54 am

Jacoby wrote:
It's your right to observe the polls and Milwaukee has a long history of electoral funny business, nobody is being intimidated. Wake up me up when you have GOP voters sitting outside polling places in combat gear with batons, then it will still probably not be considered intimidation if our DOJ is consistent.

when they stand 3 feet away, that is de facto intimidation. especially when they don't even respect that distance.



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22 Oct 2014, 1:28 am

From what I understand, challenging the voter at the poll does not mean getting in his face and asking for identification. Rather, you tell the person in charge of the polls of of your concerns. It is then up to him to talk to the voter and make a determination of whether or not they are legally eligible to vote.



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22 Oct 2014, 1:32 am

eric76 wrote:
From what I understand, challenging the voter at the poll does not mean getting in his face and asking for identification. Rather, you tell the person in charge of the polls of of your concerns. It is then up to him to talk to the voter and make a determination of whether or not they are legally eligible to vote.

a secondary fault of that is that it gums up the works of a limited number of polls allowed to be open in minority/working class voting districts, which means not everybody can vote due to time limitations. either way it is de facto voter suppression targeted to areas where there are high concentrations of likely democratic [read: working class] voters. it stinks all the way around. what it boils down to, by their own admission in a number of overheard speeches, that they don't want democrats to vote, period. they consider the democratic vote to be "fraudulent" [hence "fraud" prevention measures] by dint of democrats voting.



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22 Oct 2014, 1:34 am

auntblabby wrote:
eric76 wrote:
From what I understand, challenging the voter at the poll does not mean getting in his face and asking for identification. Rather, you tell the person in charge of the polls of of your concerns. It is then up to him to talk to the voter and make a determination of whether or not they are legally eligible to vote.

a secondary fault of that is that it gums up the works of a limited number of polls allowed to be open in minority/working class voting districts, which means not everybody can vote due to time limitations. either way it is de facto voter suppression targeted to areas where there are high concentrations of likely democratic [read: working class] voters. it stinks all the way around. what it boils down to, by their own admission in a number of overheard speeches, that they don't want democrats to vote, period. they consider the democratic vote to be "fraudulent" [hence "fraud" prevention measures] by dint of democrats voting.


I don't believe for a second that any honest Republican doesn't want Democrats to vote any more than I believe that any honest Democrat doesn't want Republicans to vote.

I do believe that a great many Republicans don't want ineligible voters to vote.



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22 Oct 2014, 1:37 am

http://www.inquisitr.com/1005250/nc-rep ... ress-vote/

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f62BHH4xMXw[/youtube]



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22 Oct 2014, 1:45 am

I could grudgingly respect some of them if only they would [on his subject at least] STOP LYING TO MY FACE.



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22 Oct 2014, 2:05 am

Again, Republican politicians are calling for vigilance against voter fraud - a largely non-existent problem.


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22 Oct 2014, 2:06 am

Again, Republican politicians are calling for vigilance against voter fraud - a largely non-existent problem.


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22 Oct 2014, 2:09 am

the national right wing has declared war on anybody not a part of them, and in any war, truth is the first casualty.



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22 Oct 2014, 2:21 am

auntblabby wrote:
the national right wing has declared war on anybody not a part of them, and in any war, truth is the first casualty.


Guess so.


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22 Oct 2014, 2:32 am

auntblabby wrote:
http://www.inquisitr.com/1005250/nc-republican-don-yelton-admits-voter-id-laws-intend-to-suppress-vote/

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f62BHH4xMXw[/youtube]


So a Republican precinct chair made some stupid comments on a tv comedy show that represents his own personal views and you take that to represent honest Republicans?



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22 Oct 2014, 2:36 am

Kraichgauer wrote:
Again, Republican politicians are calling for vigilance against voter fraud - a largely non-existent problem.


By that logic, ebola is a largely non-existent problem in the US. Are saying that we should not be vigilant against ebola?

As long as voter fraud exists, we should be vigilant against it regardless of our party.