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Protogenoi
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24 Oct 2014, 10:51 pm

I use archaic language all the time in the words I write and even say.
This can cause confusion as I'm speaking obsolete language. Sometimes I use an archaic definition or an obsolete word.

For example: The word "Apricity," apparently people don't use it.

Another example: The word Chaos doesn't mean to me what other people use it as. I don't tend to think of the modern usage, but the older meaning. So to me it isn't a state of disorder. I think of a state of formlessness or void.

And as always, slang and abbreviations are something I can't handle very well, because it seems those words get updated too fast.

Maybe I just read too many old books...



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24 Oct 2014, 11:55 pm

Ah, yeah, I do that all the time.

And then people often just dont listen to me, which is annoying. And everyone wonders why I dont talk much... it's because of things like that.



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25 Oct 2014, 12:28 am

Sometimes, I tend to use old words or expressions but not enough to make it come off weird. Words like alas... Can't think right now but I use a lot of the old words they used to use in plays like the ones written by Shakespeare.

I also tend to talk very formally, no matter how informal the conversation is (but not with family). I come off looking all seriously. Sometimes, I think of myself like Mr. Spock.

I know I do it and I don't know why but I do like it and it certainly makes me different to others ( different, not weird). I don't know if it's an Aspie thing but there you have it.


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25 Oct 2014, 1:36 am

Protogenoi wrote:
I use archaic language all the time in the words I write and even say.
This can cause confusion as I'm speaking obsolete language. Sometimes I use an archaic definition or an obsolete word.

For example: The word "Apricity," apparently people don't use it.

Another example: The word Chaos doesn't mean to me what other people use it as. I don't tend to think of the modern usage, but the older meaning. So to me it isn't a state of disorder. I think of a state of formlessness or void.

And as always, slang and abbreviations are something I can't handle very well, because it seems those words get updated too fast.

Maybe I just read too many old books...


YES! I use at least some words that make people double take, such as shall and whatnot, and some words that are big and not necessarily archaic. It started with my interest in Poe. The people who use only slang make my head hurt these days, but at least I know a bit of it since I went to public school. I used to use it often during the time I tried to appear "normal" (For example, one of my acquaintances comes up to me that I know used it, and I'd say "Hey, what up man? Whatchu been up to?") . I'm sure it was obvious I was trying hard. :lol: It was like learning a new language.

Coincidentally, my "stage name" that I pen my artwork/lyrics/writings in is Chaos. For me it also means "the void", from which everything sprang, not disorder. I do like the dual meaning though.

Also, apricity - Warmth of the winter sun . Thanks for a new word, I actually didn't know that one. I've read it before I think.

*Sorry for any typos, I'm sick, and I get a bit loopy when I'm sick. :cat: *Oh, and I listen to some underground rappers that are intelligent and don't use it as often. *WARNIING: violent lyrics.* https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=im8xSbHoa2o


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25 Oct 2014, 1:55 am

Protogenoi wrote:
I use archaic language all the time in the words I write and even say.
This can cause confusion as I'm speaking obsolete language. Sometimes I use an archaic definition or an obsolete word.

For example: The word "Apricity," apparently people don't use it.

Another example: The word Chaos doesn't mean to me what other people use it as. I don't tend to think of the modern usage, but the older meaning. So to me it isn't a state of disorder. I think of a state of formlessness or void.

And as always, slang and abbreviations are something I can't handle very well, because it seems those words get updated too fast.

Maybe I just read too many old books...


Yes, all the time. I also use archaic languages. This is because in many ways I tend to prefer the way that people expressed themselves in just a few languages that were particularly impressive to me. Old English, Norse, Yiddish, Arabic, Aramaic, ancient Hebrew, Koine Greek, and classical Latin all tickle my brain to no end.

Especially Koine Greek, their vocabulary was just delicious and so was their literature. When they said logos, which we often just translate into "word", it meant a much more expansive concept and depending on the context it could mean multiple things at the same time. In our plain old language a heart is just a heart, a dog is just a dog, spoken words (logos) are just spoken words as opposed to written words. But in Greek people were always making fantastic visualizations and in everyday dialogue they were picturing grand philosophical concepts as if it were a casual thing, like pneuma, pistis, and logos.

Pneuma: the wind essence or breath inside a person that they believed was the center of thought and the actual physical manifestation of the soul. For thinkers like Plato the soul was corporeal.
Logos: the outpouring of this pneuma or intellectual essence that could take on a life of it's own as it affects other pneuma.
Pistis: a logos specifically constructed as an argument or persuasion. One was meant to visualize a competition between different essences and choosing whose soul/pneuma to allow internalization.


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25 Oct 2014, 2:04 am

Why not talk in a manner that people will understand?


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25 Oct 2014, 2:29 am

Who_Am_I wrote:
Why not talk in a manner that people will understand?


For a lot of people who are very accustomed to using different language it is hard to adjust.


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25 Oct 2014, 2:58 am

Who_Am_I wrote:
Why not talk in a manner that people will understand?


Ranty explanation ahead (I warned you, I get loopy when I'm ill.).
Personally, when I used to talk in more "relatable manner", I felt fake. People also made fun of me for "being fake" as well. They could tell it was a front, and that I was actually weird underneath. :alien: I kept it up "tooth and nail" for a while though. My aunt would try to get me to stop, but that just confused me. Logically, I knew I sounded awful, but why should I stop if it's "helping me seem normal"?

At some point I realized there was some fundamental difference ( :?: ) that prevented me from "seeming normal", even when I tried, and the experiment ended (I'm sure my aunt was happy). I started speaking how I wished again, and I felt much better. I usually speak like an intelligent human these days, and sometimes I say words that confuse people. I'm not going to fake how I speak again, it felt so awful having to translate my thoughts every time I spoke. I actually grew to have great disgust for normalcy (the stereotypes of it that is), something I held in for a long time. I do still say bro sometimes, and I still use "curse words" when I feel like it. :lol: "Hey bro, I shall be back very soon, could you please shut the f**king door all the way, it's dreadfully drafty." 8) :P :shrug: No idea, don't ask.


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25 Oct 2014, 3:17 am

I sometimes do that especially using the archaic words that I like or when I'm being sarcastic



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25 Oct 2014, 4:10 am

I don´t use archaic language much now, but I do, when I read old literature. These years I don´t read much, so my language is very "daily", but when I read, my language becomes literary, sort of "in style".
It must be that tape-recorder tendency, aspies and auties are said to have :-)

In my twenties and thirties I spoke oldfashioned literary most of the time, - and as I was mad about radio theatre when little (5 y), I could say things like: "Mom, I do not comprehend the words of these men" (meaning Dad and Uncle) instead of just saying: "Mom, what are they talking about?"
- but radio theatre was, what came out of my mouth. It was automatic.
It still happens once in a while and people look funny.


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25 Oct 2014, 4:11 am

Notwithstanding the aforementioned comments, I love to dust off a not so popular word from time to time. I'm somewhat resistant to changes of meaning, such as 'revert' is becoming more 'reply' than 'put back to a former state', but I do like some newer words, such as 'prepone' meaning brought forward in time (q.v. postponed).



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25 Oct 2014, 4:27 am

Yes! That is a true joy too :lol:
Taking up expressions from, say, the 1700´s and enjoy the look on peoples faces.


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25 Oct 2014, 6:39 am

I read the bible a lot when I was young, and I fell in love with the incredible efficiency of the Old English.
Those sentences are tightly packed with information.

I used to use them a lot, but I don't use them as much these days. I still like to confuse people on occasion, but I do it on purpose :). Frank Herbert taught me a good many great words too. He's been a big influence on my language.



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25 Oct 2014, 7:00 am

I do in my own language.


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25 Oct 2014, 9:24 am

Splendidly, doth thee speaketh to the most arduous audience, with perfect enunciation and mimicry of multitudinal memories of the fantastical and personifiable, albeit lacking cohesive pronounal poise, on purpose. They stare as I dictate thyself.

Meaning, I don't say a damn thing.



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25 Oct 2014, 9:31 am

:lol: :lol: :lol:


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