"Women aren't attracted to men"

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18 Nov 2007, 2:38 pm

***EDIT: I DID NOT WRITE THIS ARTICLE, DON'T ASSUME I DID OR AGREE WITH ALL OF IT, IT IS THE OPINION OF THE AUTHOR!! !***

Women aren't attracted to men.
Date: 2007-10-18, 7:04PM EDT


Women are not actually attracted to men. There is a vague idea of what a man is physically, and some are better than others aesthetically speaking, but the purely physical appearance of a man is almost inconsequential unless he is horribly ugly or outrageously attractive.

Women are attracted to status, money, how much a man smiles and laughs, how many friends and resources a man has, how full a man's life is--how many "cool," "exciting" and prestigious things he is doing or connected to.

They are interested in how other people view him--how many people want to be around him, how other people interact with him and whether their interactions convey that he is special and amazing. They want him to be extremely outgoing and aggressive, they want him to demonstrate his status over other people by dominating them in various non-violent ways.

A woman's attraction to a man is a function of her jealousy at the thought of another woman having that man. She doesn't care who he actually is or EXACTLY what he looks like physically, she only cares about the VALUE of the life he has constructed around himself.

A woman basically is a greedy materialistic prostitute. Although that sounds vulgar, it's true. She trades her physical self to buy into the success a man has created for himself.

As a man, I fall in love with how a woman is physically. I fall in love with simple parts of a woman. Like the way her hair falls around her face, the line of her neck, her shoulders. They way her ears might peek from her hair. Her eyelashes. The size and shape of her hands, her fingernails. The way she walks, the way she looks when she is tired or annoyed, the sound she makes when she sneezes, coughs, or cries. The way she sits in a chair. The way she breathes while experiencing different emotions. The way her lips move. A million little things.

Sure, a huge part of my attraction is mental, but the powerful seed of love that builds within me and crystallizes is based greatly on visual things that set off torrents of emotion and need.

It seems to me that women almost cannot think for themselves. Their estimates of worth are based on other peoples' estimates of worth. They don't really find an object beautiful on their own. The object becomes beautiful when other people let her know that it is beautiful.


I'm completely unable to reconcile the differences between men and women. It seems like success with women is equal to spending half of your life working to create a giant illusion, something vastly tiring and annoying, while sacrificing your own true self and your own interests. We construct our lives around nest-building. We're like male birds building nests and showing them off to attract mates. It's pathetic. Everything we do is to get women. It is a f*****g s**t deal.

Someone needs to invent a drug which has no hormonal imbalance side-effects but is able to erase a man's sex drive and attraction to women. It would increase productivity rates to incredible heights. I'd be free and happy. I'd feel complete. I'd be able to concentrate on my biochemistry studying.

http://www.craigslist.org/about/best/pit/453035602.html

So this is probably why so many guys here can't get a girlfriend. Oh, and before the women here start to flame, the author is talking about NT women. I think this article is true for a majority of women today(50.1%+), but not all.



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18 Nov 2007, 2:54 pm

Majority is a strong word. My crystal ball is outa wack, so I can't really say much about people's motivations, but I think you're a coloring the situation a bit much.



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18 Nov 2007, 2:57 pm

I think maybe you are used to dealing with insecure women if you think all they care about is what other people think. I have more than once dated men when my friends thought I could "do better" because I saw something special in them.

Physical attraction is a component of female desire, if not as large a component as it is for men. When I'm falling for a guy, I might get really into the colors in his eyes or the bulge of a bicep or a cute butt or thick wavy hair or any number of things,... but non-superficial things are more important like how he treats other people and his self-confidence and if he makes me laugh occasionally.

As for women being "greedy materialistic prostitute"s I obviously disagree. I think all men and women are genetically programmed to be attracted to mates who will contribute to the well-being of any offspring that may develop, whether they actually want children at the time or not. Men are attracted to women who would produce healthy children, and beauty is the outward expression of good health, as obesity and bad skin are signs of bad health. And women are attracted to men who with the ambition and financial security to keep any children healthy. I profoundly disagree that either sex is better than the other. People can rise above that level or not, men or women.



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18 Nov 2007, 3:11 pm

I didn't write this BTW in case anyone didn't realize it, I just posted it, that's why there is a link at the bottom. For the record I think men can be just as shallow as women, it just depends on the person.



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18 Nov 2007, 3:11 pm

if guys didnt work th same way... valuing status and what others think think of their mate...

chances are there would be more variation as to what's considered attractive in females.... which i would say is more narrow than what is considered attractive for men


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18 Nov 2007, 3:15 pm

Women ARE attracted to Men they percieve as having good genes. In particular, muscular men with athletic ability REALLY seem to turn them on. But it is true that women are more interested in a man's and genetic health than pure physical appearance-but its untrue that women arent physically actually attracted to men themselves.


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It seems to me that women almost cannot think for themselves. Their estimates of worth are based on other peoples' estimates of worth. They don't really find an object beautiful on their own. The object becomes beautiful when other people let her know that it is beautiful.



Unfortunately, this is very true when it comes to Young Women(in their teens and 20s). Given the fact that most women are sociable they are often more easily influenced by other peoples opinions than men.



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18 Nov 2007, 3:20 pm

Space wrote:
Women aren't attracted to men.
Date: 2007-10-18, 7:04PM EDT


Women are not actually attracted to men. There is a vague idea of what a man is physically, and some are better than others aesthetically speaking, but the purely physical appearance of a man is almost inconsequential unless he is horribly ugly or outrageously attractive.

Women are attracted to status, money, how much a man smiles and laughs, how many friends and resources a man has, how full a man's life is--how many "cool," "exciting" and prestigious things he is doing or connected to.

They are interested in how other people view him--how many people want to be around him, how other people interact with him and whether their interactions convey that he is special and amazing. They want him to be extremely outgoing and aggressive, they want him to demonstrate his status over other people by dominating them in various non-violent ways.

A woman's attraction to a man is a function of her jealousy at the thought of another woman having that man. She doesn't care who he actually is or EXACTLY what he looks like physically, she only cares about the VALUE of the life he has constructed around himself.

A woman basically is a greedy materialistic prostitute. Although that sounds vulgar, it's true. She trades her physical self to buy into the success a man has created for himself.

As a man, I fall in love with how a woman is physically. I fall in love with simple parts of a woman. Like the way her hair falls around her face, the line of her neck, her shoulders. They way her ears might peek from her hair. Her eyelashes. The size and shape of her hands, her fingernails. The way she walks, the way she looks when she is tired or annoyed, the sound she makes when she sneezes, coughs, or cries. The way she sits in a chair. The way she breathes while experiencing different emotions. The way her lips move. A million little things.

Sure, a huge part of my attraction is mental, but the powerful seed of love that builds within me and crystallizes is based greatly on visual things that set off torrents of emotion and need.

It seems to me that women almost cannot think for themselves. Their estimates of worth are based on other peoples' estimates of worth. They don't really find an object beautiful on their own. The object becomes beautiful when other people let her know that it is beautiful.


I'm completely unable to reconcile the differences between men and women. It seems like success with women is equal to spending half of your life working to create a giant illusion, something vastly tiring and annoying, while sacrificing your own true self and your own interests. We construct our lives around nest-building. We're like male birds building nests and showing them off to attract mates. It's pathetic. Everything we do is to get women. It is a f***ing sh** deal.

Someone needs to invent a drug which has no hormonal imbalance side-effects but is able to erase a man's sex drive and attraction to women. It would increase productivity rates to incredible heights. I'd be free and happy. I'd feel complete. I'd be able to concentrate on my biochemistry studying.

http://www.craigslist.org/about/best/pit/453035602.html

So this is probably why so many guys here can't get a girlfriend. Oh, and before the women here start to flame, the author is talking about NT women. I think this article is true for a majority of women today(50.1%+), but not all.



so, why can't I find a boyfriend, if it is so easy for us girls?


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18 Nov 2007, 3:26 pm

To me it seems that most women react toward men the way society expects them to. They're very adaptable to marketing. Sometimes I wonder if women are born with a sexual preference.

While men seem very sure about their attractions. They're born with a sexual preference. Just something I wonder about.


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18 Nov 2007, 3:31 pm

Space you raise some good points, although I feel we are all equal, it is hard being a man on the spectrum with a desire to date with little money. I don't go anywhere near dating sites or such things, where the men boast of of their successes and the women hunger for a slice, i feel you are right in this observation, but I feel men are just to blame for their part in such an absurd pantomime.

I think Aspie women are much more attuned to the finer qualities of
loyalty, and inner beauty.

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18 Nov 2007, 3:32 pm

It seems like this isn't even about women, it's about men who are having trouble getting dates and are trying to rationalize why. I suppose I can only speak for myself, but I know I am attracted to (certain) men and I don't believe it has anything to do with society.



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18 Nov 2007, 3:36 pm

sinsboldly wrote:
so, why can't I find a boyfriend, if it is so easy for us girls?


Merle

I never said it was easier for girls. I think society is very rigid and oppressive in it's stereotyping and enforcement of gender roles. Mass media makes these stereotypes to keep people dumb and shallow, insecure, in-line, constantly buying unnecessary things, and basically keep the world in order for the benefit of corporations. I think women who reject all the societal stereotypical BS that is thrust upon us have it difficult too, maybe even more so than men in some ways.



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18 Nov 2007, 3:45 pm

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Women are attracted to status, money, how much a man smiles and laughs, how many friends and resources a man has, how full a man's life is--how many "cool," "exciting" and prestigious things he is doing or connected to.


Isn't that well known fact already? Look at Woody allen: an unpopular ugly guy who never got a gf at school but since he got the fame he's getting the prettiest women . Go figure.



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so, why can't I find a boyfriend, if it is so easy for us girls?


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Post a pic of yourself and I would probably tell you why.



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18 Nov 2007, 3:51 pm

I don't think that looks has as much to do with it as people think. Often I observe "beautiful" people wondering why they can't get a boy friend and funny looking people having no problem.


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18 Nov 2007, 3:55 pm

^^ among females? You mean a beautiful girl that never had a bf really exists ?or at least been asked out? I really doubt that . Unless if the girl is lesbian or mental or soo much picky and just want Mr.right... then yea ...in this case she won't have a bf so easily .



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18 Nov 2007, 4:03 pm

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^^ among females? You mean a beautiful girl that never had a bf really exists ?or at least been asked out? I really doubt that . Unless if the girl is lesbian or mental or soo much picky and just want Mr.right... then yea ...in this case she won't have a bf so easily .


They get asked out, Maybe they're just picky. When I see those dumb daytime talk shows, sometimes they have gorgeous actresses on who say they can't find a boy friend.


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18 Nov 2007, 4:11 pm

Yeah, all this is why I really don't even try dating and why especially I can't just walk up to someone cold - not anxiety about them, more like me wondering "That's great and all that I find her physically attractive at least but what the f--- does that mean on its own? What makes me think I'd even want anything to do with her after I get a good look at her personality? Even if in the moment she seems like she's attracted to me as well?".

My whole thing is I want to live in peace, I want to constantly grow, learn, expand (not my waistline - my mind), and become more and more my best self. I want someone around who helps bring that out in me and myself to bring that out in her. I want to talk to a woman and realize that she's really attracted to me for what I have the potential to be inwardly, I want her to value who I am just like I'd greatly value who she is. The last thing I'd want though, the absolute last, is someone who just has a superficial take on me and who's going to constantly take everything that I have myself a bit more advanced on than much of society, turn it around, call it a weakness, and tell me I need to correct it. There are certain ways in which I'm more than happy to conform and yet certain ways in which I'd never want to just because I feel like my way is better, more practical, but in the end it makes me able to look in the mirror and like the guy I see. If I was a slave to someone else's ego or their take on my gender, what my role should be, how much I was reaching or falling short of being a necessary as*hole, or how much I was turning out to be the right kind of guy for the nice little suburban house, white picket fence, 2.4 kids - please GET A F'ING SOUL!! !

That's why I'll probably as picky as can be about personality myself to my last day and, if the odds are that what I want is too unrealistic, then I'll gladly take singlehood for life and I'll deal with all the jabs my friends give me about wanting to get me a hooker for my birthday or buying me gay magazines as pranks. I just can't and won't have my life dominated, I lived my first 20 years of life like that and I'm sure as hell not into getting a 30% payoff (companionship, love) at a 70% cost - its horrid.