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JohnHopkins
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| Why are people just so open about illegality on this board? Do the board rules actually allow it, or have I missed something, or what? |
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gwenevyn
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JH: Because aspies don't have as great of a sense of what would be "taboo" to talk about. Plus, this is the internet and the probability of the cops looking you up for one reference to public sex is extremely remote.
We do have our limits. Open admission to the use of child pornography will probably result in a ban, for example. Threats may result in being reported to the authorities. That sort of thing.
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JohnHopkins
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| Posted: Mon Dec 10, 2007 4:35 pm Post subject: |
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| I was referring more to the prostitution than the public sex, but okay then. |
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Aspie1
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| Posted: Mon Dec 10, 2007 4:41 pm Post subject: |
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[Deleted due to the responses it received.]
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gwenevyn
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| Posted: Mon Dec 10, 2007 4:46 pm Post subject: |
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| JohnHopkins wrote: | | I was referring more to the prostitution than the public sex, but okay then. |
It shocked me, too, the first time I saw it. Alex thinks it's important for aspies to have a safe place to talk about these things.
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Pandora
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| Posted: Tue Dec 11, 2007 8:43 am Post subject: |
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What about the other aspies on here who don't want to see all that sicko stuff? There should be a safe place for us who are in the majority. If they want to talk about those things, they should do it on PM or better, still via private e-mail.
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pandabear
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I'm having a hard time following the discussion.
Are we talking about hiring a prostitute when it is illegal, and then getting additional excitement because it is illegal, and you don't know whether she might in fact be a policewoman who is about to arrest you?
Or, are we talking about people like our Senator Craig, who risks his career and reputation through having sex with men in very public restrooms?
For me, the additional anxiety would not be a benefit by any means. But, it must have been a turn-on for Senator Craig.
I suppose that Aspies who do not want to participate in these discussions could avoid the more questionable topics. I stay out of the Women's Discussion area, just to keep out of trouble. |
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MrMark
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| Posted: Tue Dec 11, 2007 9:48 am Post subject: |
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For lots of aspies, engaging the services of a prostitute is their sexual outlet. It is only illegal in the more conservative locations. There's nothing "sicko" about it.
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Pandora
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That's not what I meant by sicko. I meant people talking about child p@rn, bestiality, and other way out there topics. There are specific websites for those kinds of things. By tacitly encouraging them in a website such as this, it leaves the admin potentially open to many troublesome situations. I believe this is meant to be a website that supports Aspies in their daily lives and that instead of catering to a very small minority, we need to be looking at more systemic issues, such as discrimination against aspies in the general community, ignorance about autism, lack of job opportunities and support for parents anc children within the school system.
The real danger with the topics I mentioned at the very top is we already have a bad rap in the media for being mentally unbalanced, prone to violence, and even perversion. We need to clean up our image so that we can be seen as better people by the rest of the community. We don't need to encourage things that will make us look any worse than we are already painted.
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MrMark
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| Pandora wrote: | | That's not what I meant by sicko. I meant people talking about child p@rn, bestiality, and other way out there topics. There are specific websites for those kinds of things. By tacitly encouraging them in a website such as this, it leaves the admin potentially open to many troublesome situations. I believe this is meant to be a website that supports Aspies in their daily lives and that instead of catering to a very small minority, we need to be looking at more systemic issues, such as discrimination against aspies in the general community, ignorance about autism, lack of job opportunities and support for parents anc children within the school system. |
I don’t believe those things have been discussed in this thread. If you wish to discuss the way the site is managed I recommend that you do so in the Site Discussions forum.
Indeed, we do seek to manage the site not in the way the minorities on either end of social/political spectrum desire, but rather more like what the majority in the middle desire.
| Pandora wrote: | | The real danger with the topics I mentioned at the very top is we already have a bad rap in the media for being mentally unbalanced, prone to violence, and even perversion. We need to clean up our image so that we can be seen as better people by the rest of the community. We don't need to encourage things that will make us look any worse than we are already painted. |
I don’t believe that WP has a bad rap in the media. Quite the contrary, I believe that this is the largest, most respected site of its kind, and that the moderation team works very hard to maintain a respectable, “clean-cut” image while allowing for the limited discussion of some topics important to segments of the aspie population, despite the fact that other segments may find them “unsavory.”
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Pandora
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Excuse me, but once more you misunderstand what I said. I meant that aspies in general society have a bad rap but it is also true that there is a lot of disaffection about some aspects of WP. Either you've been on another planet for the past 6 months or so or you're purposely ignoring the political undercurrents that have been occurring.
I believe you also know as well as I do that any idea I put up is hardly going to be listened to. I am also involved in other websites where they have better standards about what is acceptable and what is not. I also never fight a battle of wits with an unarmed opponent and it certainly looks as if you're running very short of ammo.
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MrMark
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| Pandora wrote: | Excuse me, but once more you misunderstand what I said. I meant that aspies in general society have a bad rap but it is also true that there is a lot of disaffection about some aspects of WP. Either you've been on another planet for the past 6 months or so or you're purposely ignoring the political undercurrents that have been occurring.
I believe you also know as well as I do that any idea I put up is hardly going to be listened to. I am also involved in other websites where they have better standards about what is acceptable and what is not. I also never fight a battle of wits with an unarmed opponent and it certainly looks as if you're running very short of ammo. |
We are not responsible for aspies in general.
I assure you, the moderators, as a team, are well aware of the political undercurrents, overcurrents, riptides and tidal waves. The membership sees to that.
I think the reason you're not being listened to here is that you represent a minority voice here. I glad that you're involved in other websites that you find more suitable.
Please refrain from personal insults. Thanks.
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shadexiii
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| Pandora wrote: | | That's not what I meant by sicko. I meant people talking about child p@rn, bestiality, and other way out there topics. |
Though "other way out there topics" can be as broad as the individual that uses that phrase may desire, I don't remember seeing the other two subjects condoned, or encouraged, and certainly not wide-spread. One of them was addressed when a former member repeatedly talked about it and then was removed.
If there's something else in particular you are referring to with "other way out there topics," you might as well put it out in the open. The majority can't have an opinion if the majority doesn't know what they are to have an opinion on.
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We need to clean up our image so that we can be seen as better people by the rest of the community. We don't need to encourage things that will make us look any worse than we are already painted. |
Permitting and encouraging are not one and the same. If someone posts something that the "majority" does not approve of, wouldn't it be quite likely that there would be numerous posts to that effect? |
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ShadesOfMe
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| Pandora wrote: | That's not what I meant by sicko. I meant people talking about child p@rn, bestiality, and other way out there topics. There are specific websites for those kinds of things. By tacitly encouraging them in a website such as this, it leaves the admin potentially open to many troublesome situations. I believe this is meant to be a website that supports Aspies in their daily lives and that instead of catering to a very small minority, we need to be looking at more systemic issues, such as discrimination against aspies in the general community, ignorance about autism, lack of job opportunities and support for parents anc children within the school system.
The real danger with the topics I mentioned at the very top is we already have a bad rap in the media for being mentally unbalanced, prone to violence, and even perversion. We need to clean up our image so that we can be seen as better people by the rest of the community. We don't need to encourage things that will make us look any worse than we are already painted. |
were these discussed in the adult section? if so they are adults, and they should be aloud to talk about adult subjects there. If you don't like it then don't go into the thread or the adult section.
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wsmac
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Once again, I see the cry about certain topics to be more of a problem of the person complaining than the actual topic itself.
Child Pornography is one of those topics I will not tolerate if it seems to be presented as an invitation to or bragging about the activity.
This would be clearly illegal as well.
Many of the complaints I see about certain posts, such as adult diapering, could easily be dealt with by not viewing that particular thread.
This is what I do... self-censoring. I am responsible for what I choose to read.
I'll say it once more... one of the greatest things about Wrong Planet is the freedom for people to express things that are normally hidden, yet keep eating away at a person's self-esteem because as far as they know... they are the only ones to think these thoughts, have these feelings, etc.
Once the veil of 'appropriateness' is lifted, these people can come out with their questions, their observations, their thoughts, and sometimes find they are NOT weird and the ONLY one to have ever been in that position.
Suppression of human thought, human feelings, human actions, that are not harmful to others can actually be detrimental to our society.
Having things all "Nice & Tidy" just keeps pressure on people to hide things, and sometimes the stresses involved in this hiding show up when the individual can't handle it anymore and acts out in society in ways that do hurt others.
Continuing to label these differences in thoughts, feelings, and actions, as perversions and associations with being mentally unbalanced just shows ignorance of the human mind.
When the Kinsey Report and the Masters and Johnson studies came out there was hope for some people that a broader understanding of human sexuality would finally take place.
Sadly, as evidenced here at Wrong Planet by a few people, this is not the case.
Instead of being open to the possibility that it is quite normal to have these so-called perversions, the same old tired inhibitions seem to come creeping in.
I find the freedom to express oneself here to be key in the process of accepting who we are, how we are, and how everyone else is.
By acceptance, I do not mean that you have to like it all... just accept the fact that people do things differently from you and some of these things are of no interest to you.
This is no reason to call for suppression of these discussions.
As far as giving this place, or these people, a bad rep... that's easy to say, and everytime you do this you just feed the myth.
The issue of discussing something that is only partially illegal, such as prostitution, not only seems healthy in the manner done here, but also indicates a sort of civil-disobedience against anachronistic, uptight, and ignorant ideals that some societies display...again... towards human sexuality.
In the U.S. at least one state allows prostitution... Nevada... so this activity is not 100% illegal.
I find it silly that we can have one state with legal prostitution, and 49 others (I may be wrong here) that keep these ridiculous laws in place.
As we have seen here... prostitution can have a positive side to it.
Anyway... I'm veering off course now...  
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