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Hapkido Vs. Tae Kwon Do
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PostPosted: Wed Jan 09, 2008 4:09 pm    Post subject: Hapkido Vs. Tae Kwon Do Reply with quote

I was at my friend's house yesterday, His Fiance is a 2nd degree blackbelt in Tae Kwon Do, I have been taking Hapkido classes in the last three months, Well, she begins to tell me that I should have taken Tae Kwon Do and that Hapkido sucks, (it kinda does really, but I'm in it for fun anyway,)
well, all in all we ended up in the living room, furnature cleared out of the way, and we placed mats on the floor, I wore my jeans and a loose short sleeved shirt, She felt she had to put on her uniform, belt and all...
So we made an arrangement; first one to fall on their back two times loses,
Well, knowing what I was up against, I was VERY nervous,
Down one was me, she didn't even give me a chance to blink!
when I got up, she tried for the same take-down a second time, this time, however I felt she'd do it again, so I flipped her on her back; She was surprised! lol
Down three was quick, I lost in the end due to lack of rank and expirience, but the fact that I was able to prepare for her second attempt to use the same trick on me, She commended me for getting her down once,
So morale in the story,
for the love of GOD never challange a second degree blackbelt to a challange of that nature if you have little expirience in your own fighting art! T^T
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PostPosted: Wed Jan 09, 2008 7:06 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hapkido is an extremely effective martial art, of course this depends on your devotion, strength and practice. One of my friends is a Hapkido instructor. He studied TKD before moving to Hapkido. He also escapes from straitjackets, locks and chains for fun. I wouldn't want to even play fight him without some further conditioning (I'm way out of shape). To get a sense of his level of training, he recently almost died from a thyroid condition. He was in a coma for 2 weeks and lost the ability to walk. His heart stopped and he had to get a pacemaker installed. A month later, his doctors are amazed he is even alive, but he can walk, and his strength returned. The doctors asked him if he was a weightlifter! So, it's not fighting ability, but he suffered through something that probably would have killed most people, and he did a straitjacket escape last week.
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PostPosted: Wed Jan 09, 2008 7:13 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

AspE wrote:
Hapkido is an extremely effective martial art, of course this depends on your devotion, strength and practice. One of my friends is a Hapkido instructor. He studied TKD before moving to Hapkido. He also escapes from straitjackets, locks and chains for fun. I wouldn't want to even play fight him without some further conditioning (I'm way out of shape). To get a sense of his level of training, he recently almost died from a thyroid condition. He was in a coma for 2 weeks and lost the ability to walk. His heart stopped and he had to get a pacemaker installed. A month later, his doctors are amazed he is even alive, but he can walk, and his strength returned. The doctors asked him if he was a weightlifter! So, it's not fighting ability, but he suffered through something that probably would have killed most people, and he did a straitjacket escape last week.

AND THIS IS MY MOTIVATION FOR STAYING IN HAPKIDO!! XD
I have already survived getting shot three times in the chest! Imagine what I'll be like if I'm dedicated to it?! XD
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PostPosted: Wed Jan 09, 2008 7:17 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Oh yeah, one time he was with two women friends and they were attacked by two homeless men, one with a knife. My friend managed to get the knife and slashed one attacker (going for the neck but hit his forehead) before the other one threw a rock at him and broke his jaw in half. I guess it could have been worse.
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PostPosted: Wed Jan 09, 2008 7:27 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

LOL! I'll stick to it and be like that! XD
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PostPosted: Thu Jan 10, 2008 3:49 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

He studied it for more than 15 years, 10 of which was living in the studio in east LA. He made some sacrifices for it though, his marriage, his career, to some extent his health. He looks like a small weak old man, walks with a cane, but he could flip anyone upside down with it! I could tell you some stories...
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PostPosted: Fri Jan 11, 2008 6:34 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

There is no such thing as a bad martial art or a bad "style", there are only bad practitioners. Choosing the right style largely depends on the individual. A common street fighter could wail on a 7th Dan black belt in Aikido if he's just that good at fighting. A martial art is an integrated system to making combat easier and more efficient.
You hear all the time on MA forums these meat-headed jocks who've got nothing better to do than go around attacking someone else's personal style. Capoeira was a bad reputation now, because people assume it's ineffective because it looks pretty. However there is a good reason for this when you look back into it's history. And it's proven itself through the black panther militias who fought off squads of SWATs and police with nothing but razor blades and capoeira, fighting through segregation and racial profiling in the 60's and 70's. So I don't think it needs prove itself to meat-headed jocks.
TKD is much in the same boat, but as I said there are no bad styles, it just depends on the individual and also their dedication. Bob might suck at kick boxing but might be an awesome wrestler, where joe might suck at wrestling but be an awesome kick boxer.
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PostPosted: Fri Jan 11, 2008 6:43 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I think that's true, snake. There is a strange conflict in martial arts between styles. My friend told me there is an unspoken rule about not setting up a studio in the same neighborhood as another. He had a feud going with some Kung Fu people that started a studio down the street. One day two Kung Fu guys came into the Hapkido studio (after hours) with their shoes on. According to my friend, they ended up limping out, although their shoes did a number on his knees. Not the most enlightened behavior...
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PostPosted: Fri Jan 11, 2008 10:40 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

What bothers me is how martial arts are being mainstreamed and corporatized, selling out, learning martial arts USED to include teaching discipline, honor, and values. Good conduct was very important, especially to the master and dojo where the individual was being taught, because the student's conduct could reflect on the reputation of his entire dojo.
Now it's being taught to violent, short tempered, stone-throwing apes and jocks. All the honor, the discipline, has been stripped...... Interesting too to note that initially some martial arts taught healing practices as well as combat. So not only could you brake a man, you could save a man. But good judgement was a must.
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PostPosted: Sat Jan 12, 2008 11:51 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Interestingly, my friend's teacher was very traditional. He came from Korea, and he felt that you train anyone who wanted to be trained.
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PostPosted: Mon Jan 14, 2008 12:17 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hehe, yeah, but the girl I fought (or got beat down by, rather) is baias
that and I'm still very new to it so I'd imagine getting my ass kicked was inevitable,
I am going to stick to it, training my body as well as my mind,
So what you guys said is very much so true! :3
That and I needed a little discipline in my life, lol.
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PostPosted: Mon Jan 14, 2008 12:39 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

They both lose. Just get really good at muay thai. A lot of martial arts are virtually useless in the street, or against someone who really knows how to fight. Just having a really good jab and cross will serve you better in a real fight than years in tae kwon do. -my 2 cents
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PostPosted: Wed Feb 06, 2008 2:05 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

You find many TKD schools also teaching hapkido because TKD alone cannot teach you how to win a fight. The fact that you brought down the TKD blackbelt with 3 months of HKD experience shows that TKD is an incomplete martial art.

Never specialize in a martial art because your moveset would become predictable. And no, a right cross will never win a fight against a trained martial artist because you can throw so many right crosses until a smart fighter catches it on and counters. Streetfighting's overrated.
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