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alex Developer


Joined: Jun 14, 2004 Age: 22 Posts: 6270 Location: DC Metro Area
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Posted: Thu Mar 20, 2008 5:54 pm Post subject: AAFP discredits McCain erroneously linking vaccine to autism |
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| Quote: | Presidential Hopeful's Autism Comment Provokes AAFP Riposte
Scientific Data Show No Link to Vaccine Administration
By News Staff
3/20/2008
The AAFP responded quickly when U.S. presidential candidate Sen. John McCain, R-Ariz., linked autism to vaccines in statements he made during a town hall meeting in Texas on Feb. 29.
On Your Behalf
ABC News quoted McCain as saying "there's strong evidence" that the rise in autism among children is linked to the vaccine preservative thimerosal. AAFP President Jim King, M.D., took issue with McCain's comments in a March 4 letter to the senator.
"Scientific data overwhelmingly show that there is no association between vaccines and autism, presently or in the past," King wrote. "The sole study that purported a link between vaccines and autism was rejected by all major health organizations, including the National Institutes of Health, the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC), and the World Health Organization, and the study has since been retracted."
The CDC has determined there is no convincing evidence of harm associated with thimerosal, a mercury-containing preservative used in low doses in some vaccines, except for minor reactions like redness and swelling at the injection site, King noted. "Additionally, thimerosal has not been used as a preservative in those routinely recommended childhood vaccines since 2001."
Ostensibly, McCain was referring to a recent childhood vaccine injury compensation case presented to HHS' Division of Vaccine Injury Compensation. The division concluded that the facts of the case met statutory criteria for demonstrating that vaccinations received by the child on whose behalf the case was brought "significantly aggravated an underlying mitochondrial disorder, which predisposed her to deficits in cellular energy metabolism, and manifested as a regressive encephalopathy with features of autism spectrum disorder." The division recommended that compensation be awarded in the case.
"Some individuals and organizations have wrongly tried to cite (the case) as proof of a connection between vaccinations and autism," King wrote. "But the Health Resources and Services Administration, which oversees the National Childhood Vaccine Injury Act under the HHS, has since issued a statement regarding the aforementioned case which refutes these claims."
King's letter to McCain ends by noting that vaccines are among the safest and most effective means available to keep children healthy. "I am asking you to familiarize yourself with the science and to reconsider how you choose to discuss this issue," King wrote. "Failure to do so could weaken the decades of effort by the AAFP and others in the medical and public health community to promote immunizations and protect children." |
http://www.aafp.org/online/en/home/publications/news/news-now/inside-aafp/20080320mccain-aut.printerview.html |
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TLPG Phoenix


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Posted: Thu Mar 20, 2008 7:21 pm Post subject: |
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| If McCain ignores this, the Democrats have a lethal weapon that should be used against him in the Presidential campaign. Any sort of anti vaccination line is a threat to public health and promoted as such can destroy McCain's campaign if he doesn't back down fully and admit he was wrong. |
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rushfanatic Deinonychus


Joined: Jan 11, 2006 Posts: 374 Location: Lovely Ohio
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Posted: Thu Mar 20, 2008 8:30 pm Post subject: AAFP.... |
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This is just a side note here, but for many years I used contact lens solutions with thimerosal.. My sister was allergic to it, but I never had an issue with it.... I believe my asperger's came from my mom's side,but the use of thimerosal makes me wonder about others... opinions, please....  |
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zendell Free Thinker

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Posted: Thu Mar 20, 2008 11:20 pm Post subject: |
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| Quote: | | ABC News quoted McCain as saying "there's strong evidence" that the rise in autism among children is linked to the vaccine preservative thimerosal. |
I think McCain may be referring to the following as evidence:
Bernard S, Enayati A, Redwood L, Roger H, Binstock T. Autism: a novel form of mercury poisoning. Med. Hypotheses. 2001 Apr;56(4):462-71. PMID: 11339848
Geier DA, Geier MR. An assessment of the impact of thimerosal on childhood neurodevelopmental disorders. Pediatr Rehabil. 2003 Apr-Jun;6(2):97-102. PMID: 14534046
Geier MR, Geier DA. Neurodevelopmental disorders after thimerosal-containing vaccines: a brief communication. Exp Biol Med (Maywood). 2003 Jun;228(6):660-4. PMID: 12773696
Geier & Geier. Parents' worries about thimerosal in vaccines are well founded! http://pediatrics.aappublications.org/cgi/eletters/112/6/1394
David Baskin, M.D. et al. Thimerosal induces DNA breaks, caspase-3 activation, membrane damage, and cell death in cultured human neurons and fibroblasts. Toxicol Sci. 2003 Aug;74(2):361-8. Epub 2003 May 28. PMID: 12773768
Mady Hornig, M.D Etiologic factors and pathogenesis of autism: evidence from clinical studies and animal models. IOM presentation, Feb 9 2004 Audio only: http://www.iom.edu/view.asp?id=19108
Richard C. Deth, Ph.D. Effects of Mercury on Methionine Synthase: Implications for Disordered Methylation in Autism Defeat Autism Now! 2003 Philadelphia - paper
Richard C. Deth, Ph.D. A Link Between Thimerosal and the Brain: Can Vaccines Affect Central Nervous System Function? Molecular Psychiatry 2004, Volume 9.
Vojdani A, Pangborn JB et al. Infections, toxic chemicals and dietary peptides binding to lymphocyte receptors and tissue enzymes are major instigators of autoimmunity in autism. Int J Immunopathol Pharmacol. 2003 Sep-Dec;16(3):189-99. PMID: 14611720
Jeff Bradstreet, M.D. A Case-control Study of Mercury Burden in Children with Autistic Disorders and Measles Virus Genomic RNA in Cerebrospinal Fluid in Children with Regressive Autism. IOM presentation, Feb 9, 2004
Slides: http://www.iom.edu/CMS/3793/4705/17047/18065.aspx
Valsamakis A et al. style='mso-bidi-font-style:italic'>Altered virulence of vaccine strains of measles virus after prolonged style='mso-bidi-font-style: italic'>replication in human tissue. J Virol. 1999 73(10): 8791-7. PMID 10482633 http://jvi.asm.org/cgi/reprint/73/10/8791.pdf
The CDC's original findings before the CDC began to manipulate the data, obtained via the Freedom of Information Act: High risk values for thimerosal injections and a range of neurologic problems, including ADHD, tics, language problems, and autism. http://factsformedia.com/factsformedia/thimerosalstudy.pdf
Excerpts from CDC’s in-house conference: Thimerosal sequelae http://www.nationalautismassociation.org/library/IOM%20Simpsonwood%20in%20bold.pdf
Congressman, Dr. Weldon's letter to the CDC director
Geier MR, Geier DA. Autism and thimerosal-containing vaccines: analysis of the Vaccine Adverse Events Reporting System (VAERS). IOM presentation, Feb 9, 2004.
Slides: http://www.iom.edu/view.asp?id=18392
Audio: http://www.iom.edu/view.asp?id=19120
David Baskin, M.D. Relation of Neurotoxic Effects of Thimerosal to Autism. IOM presentation, Feb 9, 2004.
Audio only: http://www.iom.edu/view.asp?id=19124
Source: http://www.autism.com/triggers/vaccine/thimerosalreferences.htm
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zendell Free Thinker

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Posted: Thu Mar 20, 2008 11:38 pm Post subject: |
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From the Journal of the American Academy of Pediatrics:
"there are three studies in the peer-reviewed literature that have examined children receiving thimerosal-containing childhood vaccines in comparison to thimerosal-free...childhood vaccines administered to children as part of the routine childhood immunization schedule. These studies have shown 2- to 6- fold statistically significant increased risks for neurodevelopmental disorders and increasing dose-response effects for additional doses of mercury from thimerosal-containing childhood vaccines in comparison to thimerosal-free childhood vaccines."
http://pediatrics.aappublications.org/cgi/eletters/112/6/1394
It looks like there were only 3 studies that compared rates in children receiving thimerosal-containing vaccines versus thimerosal-free vaccines. The studies found that autism rates were 2-6 times higher in children receiving thimerosal.
Does anyone know of any studies that didn't find any links that did a valid comparison of thimerosal versus thimerosal-free vaccines? I wasn't able to find any. None of the studies I read that couldn't find a link between thimerosal and autism ever did a direct comparison. I won't accept junk science. |
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TLPG Phoenix


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Posted: Fri Mar 21, 2008 7:27 am Post subject: |
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| zendell wrote: | | I won't accept junk science. |
You just did with every single link you threw up there. The Geiers and Richard Deth for a start!
| zendell wrote: | | Does anyone know of any studies that didn't find any links that did a valid comparison of thimerosal versus thimerosal-free vaccines? I wasn't able to find any. |
That's because it's not sensational, and therefore doesn't get published. It's old news. But nevertheless it is true - unlike the garbage you're coming up with. |
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sartresue Radical Aspergian

Joined: Dec 19, 2007 Posts: 1965 Location: The Castle of Shock and Awe-tism
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Posted: Fri Mar 21, 2008 11:37 am Post subject: AAFP discredits McCain erroneously linking vaccine to Autism |
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A tiresome topic
Well, at least we know there will be no vaccine developed to prevent Autism! Ha.
I have not stopped shaking my head on this vox-ine theory. Trash talk. Autistics are born this way. If someone is allergic/sensitive to a preservative and displays symptoms similar to those of Autistics, this does not mean that person developed Autism. Instead of blame, could investigative science just study these toxins, eliminate or reduce the bad effects, and stop trying to find links that are contrived, counterproductive and do nothing to complement and understand AS.  _________________ Radical Aspergian
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Odin Supreme Genius

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Posted: Fri Mar 21, 2008 4:23 pm Post subject: |
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Morons using the Geiers as a source have no right to accuse others of "junk science." _________________ My Blog: http://selzshaven.blogspot.com |
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