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LeKiwi
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 Posted: Tue Apr 29, 2008 4:30 pm Post subject: Canada To Outlaw 60% of Natural Health Products, Supplements |
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Big, problematic news here y'all...
Check out www.stopc51.com
From NaturalNews.com -
| Quote: | A new law being pushed in Canada by Big Pharma seeks to outlaw up to 60 percent of natural health products currently sold in Canada, even while criminalizing parents who give herbs or supplements to their children. The law, known as C-51, was introduced by the Canadian Minister of Health on April 8th, 2008, and it proposes sweeping changes to Canada's Food and Drugs Act that could have devastating consequences on the health products industry.
Among the changes proposed by the bill are radical alterations to key terminology, including replacing the word "drug" with "therapeutic product" throughout the Act, thereby giving the Canadian government broad-reaching powers to regulate the sale of all herbs, vitamins, supplements and other items. With this single language change, anything that is "therapeutic" automatically falls under the Food and Drug Act. This would include bottled water, blueberries, dandelion greens and essentially all plant-derived substances.
The Act also changes the definition of the word "sell" to include anyone who gives such therapeutic products to someone else. So a mother giving an herb to her child, under the proposed new language, could be arrested for engaging in the sale of unregulated, unapproved "therapeutic substances." Learn about more of these freedom-squashing changes to the law at the Stop51.com website: http://www.stopc51.com
New enforcement powers allow Canadian government to seize your home or business
At the same time that C-51 is outlawing herbs, supplements and vitamins, it would grant alarming new "enforcement" powers to the thugs enforcement agents who claim to be "protecting" the public from dangerous unapproved "therapeutic agents" like, say, dandelion greens. As explained on the www.Educate-Yourself.org website ((http://educate-yourself.org/cn/canadian...), the C-51 law would allow the Canadian government's thugs enforcement agents to:
• Raid your home or business without a warrant
• Seize your bank accounts
• Levy fines up to $5 million and a jail terms up to 2 years for merely selling an herb
• Confiscate your property, then charge you storage fees for the expense involved in storing all the products they stole from you
C-51 would even criminalize the simple drying of herbs in your kitchen to be used in an herbal product, by the way. That would now be categorized as a "controlled activity," and anyone caught engaging in such "controlled activities" would be arrested, fined and potentially jailed. Other "controlled activities" include labeling bottles, harvesting plants on a farm, collecting herbs from your back yard, or even testing herbal products on yourself! (Yes, virtually every activity involving herbs or supplements would be criminalized...)
There's more, too. C-51 is the Canadian government's "final solution" for the health products industry. It's a desperate effort to destroy this industry that's threatening the profits and viability of conventional medicine. Natural medicine works so well -- and is becoming so widely used -- that both the Canadian and American governments have decided to "nuke" the industries by passing new laws that effectively criminalize anyone selling such products. They simply cannot tolerate allowing consumers to have continued access to natural products. To do so will ultimately spell the destruction of Big Pharma and the outdated, corrupt and criminally-operated pharmaceutical industry that these criminally-operated governments are trying to protect.
Join the rally to protest C-51
On May 9th, 2008, Canadian citizens will be gathering at the Calgary Federal Court to protest C-51 and help protect their access to natural health products. Call 1-888-878-3467 to learn more, or visit the action page of Health Canada Exposed at: http://www.stopc51.com/c51/what_you_can_do.asp
NaturalNews is looking to hire someone with a good video camera to film the event. We'll gladly pay you to video tape this and send us the resulting file, which we will edit and then post for NaturalNews readers. If you have a video camera (with good audio, hopefully) and can attend the May 9th rally, please contact us at (U.S.) 520-232-9300 for details. If you do film there, be sure to use the camera buddy system, where you have somebody in the distance filming YOU with the camera, so that if Canadian law enforcement thugs decide to assault you and steal your video camera in order to censor the event, then somebody else in the distance has THAT on video! You got that? So there are two cameras working, camera A is filming the rally, and it's very close to the action. Camera B is set back farther from the scene, and it's filming the person holding camera A. This is standard operating practice for filming such events, and it makes it very difficult for government thugs to shut down the video. Often, the person filming with camera B is in a car somewhere, or filming covertly so that they don't attract attention. Zoom lenses help a lot.
In any case, if you manage to get some video of this event, then we'd be thrilled to share it with NaturalNews readers. And like I said, we'll pay for footage, so call us for details. Together, we can help spread the word about this important rally for health freedom in Canada.
Learn more: http://www.stopC51.com |
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| I am not sure, but I heard it was because of false claims on alot of natural products, I hope they don't make meletonin illegal again, its the only stuff that works for me. Looks like there is a protest here in Calgary |
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| well if the issue is the false claims on the products then i say it could be a good thing. if there's no proof for a product's claimed benefits, i don't think they should be allowed to cite them simply because they're not a "drug". just put something like "anecdotal evidence suggests that *blank* may benefit those with *blank*, although there is no scientific evidence for this." they shouldn't be leading consumers to believe there's any scientific evidence about something if there isn't. |
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Basically, the wording is the issue. They're changing words that are effectively going to mean they have the power to restrict and outlaw anything used for a therapeutic purpose - that includes you growing your own herbs, even! The wording means all supplements - vitamin tablets, mineral supplements, etc - and all alternative medicines such as homoeopathic remedies, herbal remedies, etc are going to be regulated and outlawed. This also includes you giving your children something that could be used in a therapeutic way, for example a drink of honey and lemon if they're sick... the examples are endless.
Give it a read through - the bill itself is on the www.stopc51.com website, and it includes a review of it by lawyers interpreting the language from a legal perspective to give an idea of the implications.
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| Posted: Mon May 05, 2008 12:00 am Post subject: Was done in the US too |
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The guys that sell herabal stuff are conning you. In the US they did this scare mongoring to allow even more crap. It is being done in Canda the same way. Unbased claims and crud made to look on the up and up. do not be conned by the new age snake oil sale beings. The so called plants meds have even less testing than
even simple aspin. Move along not much to see yawn how crass of them to try that con.  |
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Uhhh, what? So, who are 'the guys that sell herabal [sic] stuff'? Why are they conning you? What is this scare mongering [sic]?
I hope you realise that aspirin is one of the 85% of all your 'modern' medicines that's basically synthesised version of a plant...
And that all the vitamins you need to live come from plants...
And that without herbs and plants you'll die...
And that your precious modern medicine kills more people each year in the US than heart attacks and cancer; drug reactions and malpractise is the leading cause of death...
That one company have been caught fabricating research, committing scientific and medical fraud, and killed more people with one drug alone than everyone who died in the Viet Nam War combined...
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| LeKiwi wrote: | | And that your precious modern medicine kills more people each year in the US than heart attacks and cancer; drug reactions and malpractise is the leading cause of death... |
show me a reliable source for this claim
i'm not saying they're bad, i don't think anyone is. we're just saying that these things have little to no actual testing and all claims are based on anecdotal evidence, which is as unreliable as it gets. these herbs can be harmful, they can be benign, they can be helpful, you have no idea because they aren't tested, or they aren't shown to have any effect when tested. |
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Hope you natural supplement freaks are ready to become gangsters  |
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| beef_bourito wrote: | | LeKiwi wrote: | | And that your precious modern medicine kills more people each year in the US than heart attacks and cancer; drug reactions and malpractise is the leading cause of death... |
show me a reliable source for this claim
i'm not saying they're bad, i don't think anyone is. we're just saying that these things have little to no actual testing and all claims are based on anecdotal evidence, which is as unreliable as it gets. these herbs can be harmful, they can be benign, they can be helpful, you have no idea because they aren't tested, or they aren't shown to have any effect when tested. |
http://www.newmediaexplorer.org/sepp/2003/10/29/medical_system_is_leading_cause_of_death_and_injury_in_us.htm
The report he's talking about: http://www.lef.org/magazine/mag2004/mar2004_awsi_death_02.htm
Googles of statistics will bring up similar results.
As for the studies that show them to be ineffective, do you mean the ones where they give them inactive forms of the herb, as in the recent St John's Wort one? Or the ones where the people don't actually take the supplements, but rather leave them on the shelves (cuz uhh, you need to take them for them to do anything...) ? Or the ones where they use synthetic forms of supplements rather than potent natural ones, or don't cite causes of death, or leave out hundreds of studies that prove their efficacy in metastudies, or give too small doses, as in the recent 'vitamin c and e make you die quicker' one from Denmark?
http://www.naturalnews.com/023430.html
Some food for thought, scuse the pun...
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