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mutti
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 Posted: Sun Jun 08, 2008 5:11 am Post subject: Repetitive Diet |
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| My daughter age 16 AS will only eat certain foods. No red meat afraid of food poisoning.Was sick once. No vegtables doesnt like.Will eat cereal cheese spaggetti occasionally fish or chicken not much else except cookies.Will drink milk and orange juice.She prefers to eat alone.Will only eat small amounts.She says if you could just swallow a pill for nurtrition she would food doesnt interest her.Is this an AS trait ,new to this only DX eight weeks ago. |
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LostInEmulation
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Preferring the same foods is a trait of autistic people in general. Obsessing about something is also very aspie.
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ouinon
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Auto-immune diseases and food intolerances/allergies are very often associated with AS/autism, and a classic result of food allergies is addiction to exactly those foods which are a problem. This can cause an increasing narrowing of the range of food someone is prepared to eat, as in the case of "real" addictions , to alcohol etc.
The most common food allergies/intolerances leading to/connected with addictive eating patterns are wheat, ( as in cereals and pasta) dairy, ( milk, cheese, etc ), oranges, eggs, soya and corn, and sugar.
At one time in my life, before I knew that I was intolerant of wheat and dairy, my diet had become cheese and tomato paste sandwiches. At another; pizza, and coffee.
When I broke the addiction, by excluding those foods, I began to rediscover interest in other foods; salads and fruit, ( which i otherwise almost never ate), green veg, and nuts and eggs, etc.
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Pandora
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I was and am a good eater but if I got food poisoning after a particular food, I wouldn't eat it again in ages. It was almost a kind of superstition. Some of my siblings were very "picky" about what they would eat; more so than me. In later life, they were found to have intolerances to some of the foods they wouldn't eat when they were little.
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n4mwd
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Having favorite foods is a common thread with aspies, but its not a diagnostic criteria. In my case, its rare that I eat anything else besides eggs for breakfast. At one time, I was eating a dozen every morning, but fortunately that didn't last very long. Now I'm on a diet so I'm only eating 2 every morning.
Regarding your daughter, I suggest that you break her of high carb foods. A diet rich in cookies and pasta is a recipe for a fat aspie. Aspies have a hard enough time as it is, but a fat aspie, especially a woman, has twice as much trouble. I suggest you educate her about high carb foods and how dangerous they are to a person's physique. If she goes without food, she is better off than getting fat.
Even if she is not fat now, the bad eating habits she gains now will be irreversible when she gets older and has a slower metabolism. |
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2ukenkerl
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| Posted: Sun Jun 08, 2008 9:15 am Post subject: |
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| n4mwd wrote: | | Having favorite foods is a common thread with aspies, but its not a diagnostic criteria. In my case, its rare that I eat anything else besides eggs for breakfast. At one time, I was eating a dozen every morning, but fortunately that didn't last very long. Now I'm on a diet so I'm only eating 2 every morning. |
It might as well be part of the criteria. HECK, I invited my mother to a restaurant once and, having checked and found theye didn't provide "The only thing I'll eat", she started walking out!!!! I INVITED HER! I knew what they had! That shows how much of an impression my constant diet made on her!
| n4mwd wrote: | Regarding your daughter, I suggest that you break her of high carb foods. A diet rich in cookies and pasta is a recipe for a fat aspie. Aspies have a hard enough time as it is, but a fat aspie, especially a woman, has twice as much trouble. I suggest you educate her about high carb foods and how dangerous they are to a person's physique. If she goes without food, she is better off than getting fat.
Even if she is not fat now, the bad eating habits she gains now will be irreversible when she gets older and has a slower metabolism. |
WRONG!!!! You can ALWAYS build muscle! THAT, effort, and your CURRENT eating habits are what drives the speed. BESIDES, it is WELL known that kids NEED glucose for energy. FAR MORE than adults. And the best way to do that is trough CARBS!
Still, I think it is interesting she got food poisoning through BEEF, and decided to switch. The other meats are more likely to be contaminated. Of course there ARE a lot of IDIOTS out there calling themselves cooks.
Do you lower, or RAISE the heat to cook a TALLER hamburger well done? Many cooks say RAISE IT! After all, it COOKS FASTER, right? WRONG! If anything, you should lower it so you can cook the inside WITHOUT turning the outside into charcoal. It takes a bit longer, but that is the POINT! Give the INSIDE a chance to cook. I have seen too many hamburgers that are THICK, burned on the outside, and RAW on the inside! By raw, I mean practically red and maybe even a bit COLD! To this very day, DECADES later, I am suspicious of thicker hamburgers. |
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lisa81
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| Posted: Sun Jun 08, 2008 9:17 am Post subject: |
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I'm a super picky eater.
I also don't eat read meat. Limited veggies... and afraid to try new things until I try it and like it or not lol I'm also not creative in cooking  |
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PilotPirx
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I've bad food habits too, luckily some of them healthy (like fruits)
Still I don't eat enough. And since I can't force myself to eat more, I try to make up for some of it by using some food supplements for vitamins and minerals. Important for me, since I do quite some sports.
You can get them in sport shops or supermarkets. Those from supermarkets ar cheap but mostly no good at all (You really don't need vitamin C supps, it's in everything nowadays)
So that costs me araound $50/month (but I save it on food 
That's of course not the best way to go...
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Avengilante
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| Pandora wrote: | | I was and am a good eater but if I got food poisoning after a particular food, I wouldn't eat it again in ages. |
Reminds me of a funny story. I loved butterscotch as a kid, until my gramma let me eat almost an entire butterscotch pie one night and I ended up painting my room with it in the middle of the night. Coming down with the flu probably didn't help, but I can't stand the smell or taste of butterscotch to this day. |
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2ukenkerl
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| Avengilante wrote: | | Pandora wrote: | | I was and am a good eater but if I got food poisoning after a particular food, I wouldn't eat it again in ages. |
Reminds me of a funny story. I loved butterscotch as a kid, until my gramma let me eat almost an entire butterscotch pie one night and I ended up painting my room with it in the middle of the night. Coming down with the flu probably didn't help, but I can't stand the smell or taste of butterscotch to this day. |
That didn't work with ME! Some days I ate POUNDS of chocolate, etc.... I STILL like the stuff! |
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mutti
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Thanks for your comments would like to make a few points. Daughter not fat size 8 UK and very healthy.Not been ill since food poisoning which was caused by saveloy(made from pork similar to hot dog)and that was when she was 8 years old.I would like to have her enjoy eating.The cookies are only two a day she was mortally offended by me making her look like she lives on them.  i |
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n4mwd
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| 2ukenkerl wrote: |
WRONG!!!! You can ALWAYS build muscle! THAT, effort, and your CURRENT eating habits are what drives the speed. BESIDES, it is WELL known that kids NEED glucose for energy. FAR MORE than adults. And the best way to do that is trough CARBS!
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The best way to get fat is through CARBS! Even though kids need more of them than adults, they still have a tendency to eat more of them than they should. You need protein for muscle building. Still, the point is that because aspies are set in their ways when it comes to eating stuff, its not going to be easy to cut back on those carbs when you are 25 if you are used to eating a ton of them when you are 15.
Surely you agree that a fat aspie has a harder time fitting in than a fit aspie. Not that a fit aspie has an easy time of it, its just harder for a fat aspie. I mean, even a fat NT has a hard time fitting in. So its important for aspies to stay as fit and trim as possible. |
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2ukenkerl
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| n4mwd wrote: | | 2ukenkerl wrote: |
WRONG!!!! You can ALWAYS build muscle! THAT, effort, and your CURRENT eating habits are what drives the speed. BESIDES, it is WELL known that kids NEED glucose for energy. FAR MORE than adults. And the best way to do that is trough CARBS!
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The best way to get fat is through CARBS! Even though kids need more of them than adults, they still have a tendency to eat more of them than they should. You need protein for muscle building. Still, the point is that because aspies are set in their ways when it comes to eating stuff, its not going to be easy to cut back on those carbs when you are 25 if you are used to eating a ton of them when you are 15.
Surely you agree that a fat aspie has a harder time fitting in than a fit aspie. Not that a fit aspie has an easy time of it, its just harder for a fat aspie. I mean, even a fat NT has a hard time fitting in. So its important for aspies to stay as fit and trim as possible. |
Well, I happen to know a LOT about this! I ate a *****LOT**** when I was younger. A LOT! HOW MUCH? Well, I often had desert, have been known to eat a whole box of cookies in ONE DAY, and often got over FOUR quarter pounders with cheese for lunch and again for dinner. Please realize I was NOT big, did NOT really exercise, and I was less than 10 years of age. I did that for YEARS! I drove my mother mad!
When I was say 14-15 I was overweight, but I worked to lose it. at 17, I was pretty thin. I STAYED thin until about 28. I went on a milk diet. I switched to fat free(still had carbs), and LOST weight. I gained weight later due to a poor diet caused by stress. Last week I lost a bit due to a cold, so maybe I'll try to lose some more in a week. Right now, I am trying to stablize my INR. |
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| sometimes it's about food texture vs. food taste..........son won't eat watermelon because of it's texture....i'd get her on a multivitamin if you haven't already |
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dgaines47
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| Posted: Mon Jun 09, 2008 10:41 pm Post subject: Limited Diet |
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A limited diet is a very common thing to find in Asperger's and Autism children. I am a behavioral consultant in Sacramento, California, USA and I have worked with quite a few children just like yours. There are behavioral methods to improve your child's diet that can be very effective. Here is a segment I have previously written on the issue in another post:
| Quote: | There are common behavioral methods that can be utilized to address this problem. My experience has been and the data clearly evidences that behavioral techniques can be very effective in helping with this problem. Optimally, a comprehensive assessment relating to the problem area should be done in order to develop the best path of behavioral remedy, as there are quite a few techniques that could be tried. In general, the idea would be to make it a positive experience for you to eat those foods that currently you associate to negatively. One method, called shaping, would slowly step-by-step teach you to enjoy the foods again. You would break down the behavior of eating these foods into smaller and easier steps. For example:
1) Touching the food with fingers ONLY
2) Picking up the food ONLY
3) Picking up the food and moving close to your mouth ONLY
4) Placing the food on your lips ONLY
5) Licking the food once ONLY
6) Placing the food in your mouth (and then removing it) ONLY
7) Taking a VERY small nibble of the food and swallowing it
8) Increasing the size of the food piece that you bite and swallow until you have reached your goal of being able to eat the food
You would work on only one of these steps at a time. You would perform the step and then reward yourself in some way after completing the step. This would begin to associate you more positively to the food with the hopes of eventually completely removing the negative association. As you "mastered" each step you would then move on to the next and proceed accordingly. This would continue until you reached your goal. Of course, keep in mind that what I have provided here is a simplified and general example of the shaping technique. The basic idea is start small and work your way up, or "baby steps".
Behavioral techniques can be very useful to assist you with your situation and in all sorts of situations. Once you learn how to apply behavioral principles you can use them across your life. |
This is just a general idea of one behavioral method. Please feel free to contact me or continue the thread here in the forum if you would like additional assistance. I would be happy to help you.
- Dave Gaines, B.A. |
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