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snake321
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| You see it doesn't mean that everything that's taught is corrupt. It's never that case. It's always a matter of putting a higher group and taking over the head of an organization. It's like the Vatican. The Vatican has the curia at the top and you often find with all the systems you'll find a color-coding of robes. That's standard, even in the Catholic Church, so you have black at the bottom because they're dealing with unwashed masses, those in the darkness; and the little bit of truth the priest is allowed to speak comes from the white part showing, but the rest of the neck is enclosed in black, so he's not allowed to show all information to the public. Then you go up the degrees; they all came from Pythagoras, by the way, who got it from Egypt, and then you have the different ones near the top, the Cardinals and so on. These colors are very important and you'll find the same thing in the Far Eastern religions with the different colored codings and you'll find it also with the rosary. The Catholics use the rosary. The Buddhists use the rosary exactly the same and every seventh bead of course is a planet et cetera, if you count them, one's bigger, and et cetera, et cetera, et cetera. These are all adaptations from each other and even the little strap that rabbis will wear on their forehead with the little scroll in it, the saying for the day that he straps on, actually came from ancient China, long before Judaism had it. There's been priesthoods above the priesthoods all down through the ages organizing all the religions the people think are there own, but at the very top they're all interconnected and the followers who don't know and often the lower priests don't know themselves. You cannot have any kind of religion, even if it was pure, you could never have it in a commercialized society where you have money and power tied together and success. Obviously, the opposite of success is failure, which means poverty in a commercialized system, so they're all intertwined and you can't have honesty in commerce in a class system of winners and losers. You cannot have them co-existing with a true religion; it doesn't work. The original Buddha was trying to break the belief in this dogmatic adherence of the class system that was ageless and changeless in his day. He was trying to break it because it kept everyone in slavery. This whole idea of karma and so you're born as a cripple or poor and that's just your station in life because you were bad in a previous life. He tried to break all of that and he would not even touch on the subject of metaphysics. It wasn't for 200 years later, after they had made many splintered groups, as always happens, they had a convocation, just like the Catholic Church did with Constantine, and they drafted up all the new rules of the new Buddhism and they went right back. They attached Hinduism right back on to it and went against its founder. the Zen Buddhists of Japan, which ties in exactly with this whole idea of a structured layered society which permeates everything.Don't forget too that the Jesuits, who are soldiers of Christ, they're soldiers first and foremost. They were started up by a member of the Alambrados of Spain that were simply the Spanish branch of the Knights Templars who at one time fought against the church. He was a professional soldier and he was recruited by the church to start up this other organization so that what they couldn't achieve by persuasion and frightening the people through superstition in a sense they would use force. They would also use nefarious methods of getting people to fight each other and people would never figure out who was behind it. They were already in Japan. That was one of the first countries they went into. One of the very first countries and they were in league with the other religions too, as they always get together. Heads of religion always attract each other and they learn from each other and often they unite, because at the top there's always an international brotherhood. They say you must get the shepherds in to lead the people, the sheep or the sheeple. |
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| Fred I really don't give a flying f**k what you've got to say, honestly. If Larry the Cable Guy was running for president, you'd probably vote for him, because your a stupid sheep. And this is why I don't give a f**k what you think at all. |
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Rjaye
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Snake, your original post makes no sense, and there's nothing about Buddhism in there. The little that's in there is so uninformed, I can't even comment on it without having to correct it, and I don't have the energy to do so, and have a conversation, and I doubt it would change your mind anyway.
The little info you have in there sounds third and fourth hand and skewed by other's views. Not only that, your post is so poorly expressed that it's hard to read. |
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snake321
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| Maybe because it's too intellectual for your reality-tv mind to grasp. It wasn't just about budhism, it was about how the original budhism was destroyed and replaced when the elites infiltrated it and took it over, as they do with EVERY movement, culture, religion, etc. How Budhism was recreated into masonic doctrine. Budha was very much against the entrapping ideology of "karma" and "reincarnation". |
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snake321
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| The elites believe in reincarnation through their offspring. This is their secret religion. Hell is here, because hell comes from a Nordic word "hella" which means "earth" or "dirt". And believe me, in a few years you will know hell. That's the big Masonic joke, reincarnation, because your born right back into hell to do it all over again. |
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Hmm, why would the Buddha be against Karma and Reincarnation? Please, explain that.
If it wasn't for these why would the Buddha work so hard to end needless animal sacrifices, a strong emphasis on Dharma, and ahimsa? Karma is what it is. It does not mean that you must do good in order to be born into a higher life. You don't work your entire life to acquire a better life in the next, that is not something the wise do. The Vedic culture was criticized for that in the Vedanta. They were too engrossed with the rituals that they only wished for the material. The Mimamsa schools preached this idea that karma-yoga was the only way to realization. Realization until when? The Buddha, being himself wise as the name implies, did away with the cyclical rituals. The Sannyasin knew this too well through studying Vedanta. Why do you think Buddhism is a monastic order? Because as a layperson you are doomed to samsara. What did the Buddha teach that wasn't taught in Hinduism? That the Vedas are unimportant for realization.
I must say that I am against western Buddhism. Not for the reasons you cited, but for the fact that the practitioners are not as serious about it as they should be. They do a bit of raja yoga and learn some verses from the Dhammapada and believe they are on the path to enlightenment.
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This makes no sense whatsoever. Also: paragraphs are your friends.
| Quote: | | Hell is here, because hell comes from a Nordic word "hella" which means "earth" or "dirt". |
Only it does not: It comes from the word "Helviti", "Hel" being the nordic goddess of death, and also the name of her realm. Her name means "Shrouded one" or "Obscured one". The word "viti" means "punishment". So the original word for hell in the sense it is used today really means "Obscured ones punishment".
| Quote: | | Maybe because it's too intellectual for your reality-tv mind to grasp. |
For something to be considered "intelligent", it must first achieve coherency...
| Quote: | | They attached Hinduism right back on to it and went against its founder. the Zen Buddhists of Japan, which ties in exactly with this whole idea of a structured layered society which permeates everything |
How does that make any sense, at all? The defining aspect of Zen Buddhism from other types of Buddhism is much less emphasis on religious texts and theoretical knowledge, and more emphasis on meditation and introspection. Someone please correct me if I'm wrong.
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tl;dr
Go back to Prison Planet, troll.
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slowmutant
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| Posted: Wed Jul 02, 2008 10:38 am Post subject: Re: budhism |
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| snake321 wrote: | | You see it doesn't mean that everything that's taught is corrupt. It's never that case. It's always a matter of putting a higher group and taking over the head of an organization. It's like the Vatican. The Vatican has the curia at the top and you often find with all the systems you'll find a color-coding of robes. That's standard, even in the Catholic Church, so you have black at the bottom because they're dealing with unwashed masses, those in the darkness; and the little bit of truth the priest is allowed to speak comes from the white part showing, but the rest of the neck is enclosed in black, so he's not allowed to show all information to the public. Then you go up the degrees; they all came from Pythagoras, by the way, who got it from Egypt, and then you have the different ones near the top, the Cardinals and so on. These colors are very important and you'll find the same thing in the Far Eastern religions with the different colored codings and you'll find it also with the rosary. The Catholics use the rosary. The Buddhists use the rosary exactly the same and every seventh bead of course is a planet et cetera, if you count them, one's bigger, and et cetera, et cetera, et cetera. These are all adaptations from each other and even the little strap that rabbis will wear on their forehead with the little scroll in it, the saying for the day that he straps on, actually came from ancient China, long before Judaism had it. There's been priesthoods above the priesthoods all down through the ages organizing all the religions the people think are there own, but at the very top they're all interconnected and the followers who don't know and often the lower priests don't know themselves. You cannot have any kind of religion, even if it was pure, you could never have it in a commercialized society where you have money and power tied together and success. Obviously, the opposite of success is failure, which means poverty in a commercialized system, so they're all intertwined and you can't have honesty in commerce in a class system of winners and losers. You cannot have them co-existing with a true religion; it doesn't work. The original Buddha was trying to break the belief in this dogmatic adherence of the class system that was ageless and changeless in his day. He was trying to break it because it kept everyone in slavery. This whole idea of karma and so you're born as a cripple or poor and that's just your station in life because you were bad in a previous life. He tried to break all of that and he would not even touch on the subject of metaphysics. It wasn't for 200 years later, after they had made many splintered groups, as always happens, they had a convocation, just like the Catholic Church did with Constantine, and they drafted up all the new rules of the new Buddhism and they went right back. They attached Hinduism right back on to it and went against its founder. the Zen Buddhists of Japan, which ties in exactly with this whole idea of a structured layered society which permeates everything.Don't forget too that the Jesuits, who are soldiers of Christ, they're soldiers first and foremost. They were started up by a member of the Alambrados of Spain that were simply the Spanish branch of the Knights Templars who at one time fought against the church. He was a professional soldier and he was recruited by the church to start up this other organization so that what they couldn't achieve by persuasion and frightening the people through superstition in a sense they would use force. They would also use nefarious methods of getting people to fight each other and people would never figure out who was behind it. They were already in Japan. That was one of the first countries they went into. One of the very first countries and they were in league with the other religions too, as they always get together. Heads of religion always attract each other and they learn from each other and often they unite, because at the top there's always an international brotherhood. They say you must get the shepherds in to lead the people, the sheep or the sheeple. |
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slowmutant
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Snake, the word is spelled B-U-D-D-H-I-S-M
You are really a piece of work. |
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| SuperSteve wrote: | This makes no sense whatsoever. Also: paragraphs are your friends.
| Quote: | | Hell is here, because hell comes from a Nordic word "hella" which means "earth" or "dirt". |
Only it does not: It comes from the word "Helviti", "Hel" being the nordic goddess of death, and also the name of her realm. Her name means "Shrouded one" or "Obscured one". The word "viti" means "punishment". So the original word for hell in the sense it is used today really means "Obscured ones punishment".
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Do the Swedes still use the word helvíti to curse or swear, like they do in Iceland?
I have been to Hella; I was living nearby for a few years. My daughter was born just a few miles from there.
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Fred2670
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| snake321 wrote: | | Fred I really don't give a flying f**k what you've got to say, honestly. If Larry the Cable Guy was running for president, you'd probably vote for him, because your a stupid sheep. And this is why I don't give a f**k what you think at all. |
And you are one of those pseudo-intellectuals that think they can take a topic and run it off a cliff by concocting so much inane psychobabble that nobody can understand it much less refute it. I think people like you who are irrational enough to be terrified by fantastic figments of their own imagination, are complete idiots. I would actually feel sorry for you, if you werent such an arrogant bastard.
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| Rjaye wrote: | | Snake, ... nothing about Buddhism in there. ... uninformed, |
| snake321 wrote: | | ... How Budhism was recreated into masonic doctrine.... |
I don't know enough about other things you have said to comment, but I am a Master Mason and I can tell you Budhism was not recreated into masonic doctrine. In Freemasonry there is a reference to the murder of Hiram Abiff (Master Mason in charge of the building of King Solomon's Temple) whose body was raised from a grave. But that was in the context of recovering his body from where it was hidden so it could be properly buried. Many uninformed people misinterpret that as a reference to reincarnation.
The whole point of that sequence in freemasonry is to make the point that Hiram Abiff would rather be killed than improperly disclose the secrets of a master mason and that death has no fear to a good and righteous man.
Freemasonry does not have a religious doctrine.
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btw - Rjaye - nice to see you are still about.
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| Posted: Thu Jul 03, 2008 3:54 am Post subject: Re: budhism |
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| snake321 wrote: | | You see it<snip>. |
The Society of Paranoid Intellectuals(SoPI) is revoking your membership. Officially, the reason is that you broke the societies first commandment. "Thou shall use proper punctuation." Unofficially? They dont think you are much of an intellectual. Personally? I think pills would help you a lot.
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