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PostPosted: Sat Aug 09, 2008 10:06 am    Post subject: Questions about the IQ test FRT, Figure Reasoning Test Reply with quote

Today I took an IQ test called FRT, administered by Mensa Sweden. The test had 45 questions and I had 20 minutes. I could do 38 before the time was out, and I think I solved, if not very, almost every, of those 38 problems. So I figure my score is pretty close to 38 of 45.

My estimated IQ will be sent by mail within 6 weeks, so I thought I'd try estimate something on my own. Does anyone know anything about the FRT test and how the raw score translates to IQ? Please? Pleeeaase? Wink
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PostPosted: Sun Nov 23, 2008 8:20 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

If you scored 38 correct out of 45, then you have a score that is (38/45)x100 = 84,4% corrrect. As you say the test was from Mensa I have looked up that they use a stabdard deviation of 15 when calculating their IQ scores. Computing this your IQ would be aroound 116. And as you have not been able to work this out by yourself, I think it's fairly safe to assume that you have NOT answered all 38 correct. So infact your actual IQ would be significantly lower - most likely closer to 100. Which is average and not bad.
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PostPosted: Wed Dec 03, 2008 11:59 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

cj26 wrote:
If you scored 38 correct out of 45, then you have a score that is (38/45)x100 = 84,4% corrrect. As you say the test was from Mensa I have looked up that they use a stabdard deviation of 15 when calculating their IQ scores. Computing this your IQ would be aroound 116. And as you have not been able to work this out by yourself, I think it's fairly safe to assume that you have NOT answered all 38 correct. So infact your actual IQ would be significantly lower - most likely closer to 100. Which is average and not bad.



What you have stated right here is 100% wrong. FRT is a test that is not age corrected. The amount of answers does not 'give' IQ score in such a way that you mentioned. Mensa does not use only sd 15. Mensa uses sd variably and according to the test used. So, Mensa says that IQ score is useless, unless you mention the test you took. FRT used sd=15, but RAPM II through which I qualified a few years ago, uses sd=24. RAPM is age corrected, unlike FRT. Not many National Mensa groups use it since it has changed to the above [FRT] since 2006 [it was applied my country]. Please read a few things regarding IQ before submitting a[ny] answer or estimation.
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PostPosted: Thu Dec 04, 2008 1:00 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

cj26 wrote:
If you scored 38 correct out of 45, then you have a score that is (38/45)x100 = 84,4% corrrect. As you say the test was from Mensa I have looked up that they use a stabdard deviation of 15 when calculating their IQ scores. Computing this your IQ would be aroound 116. And as you have not been able to work this out by yourself, I think it's fairly safe to assume that you have NOT answered all 38 correct. So infact your actual IQ would be significantly lower - most likely closer to 100. Which is average and not bad.


Um, that's not how standard deviations work. Getting 84% correct is not the same thing as being in the 84th percentile. Without knowing the mean and standard deviations of the raw scores, you can't work out how raw scores translate into standardized scores. For all you know, only 5% of the population gets 38 or above correct.
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PostPosted: Thu Dec 04, 2008 12:05 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

LostInSpace wrote:
cj26 wrote:
If you scored 38 correct out of 45, then you have a score that is (38/45)x100 = 84,4% corrrect. As you say the test was from Mensa I have looked up that they use a stabdard deviation of 15 when calculating their IQ scores. Computing this your IQ would be aroound 116. And as you have not been able to work this out by yourself, I think it's fairly safe to assume that you have NOT answered all 38 correct. So infact your actual IQ would be significantly lower - most likely closer to 100. Which is average and not bad.


Um, that's not how standard deviations work. Getting 84% correct is not the same thing as being in the 84th percentile. Without knowing the mean and standard deviations of the raw scores, you can't work out how raw scores translate into standardized scores. For all you know, only 5% of the population gets 38 or above correct.



You are right 100%!!!
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PostPosted: Fri Nov 27, 2009 11:48 am    Post subject: Actual theory around Mensa IQ tests. Reply with quote

mumiland wrote:
LostInSpace wrote:
cj26 wrote:
If you scored 38 correct out of 45, then you have a score that is (38/45)x100 = 84,4% corrrect. As you say the test was from Mensa I have looked up that they use a stabdard deviation of 15 when calculating their IQ scores. Computing this your IQ would be aroound 116. And as you have not been able to work this out by yourself, I think it's fairly safe to assume that you have NOT answered all 38 correct. So infact your actual IQ would be significantly lower - most likely closer to 100. Which is average and not bad.


Um, that's not how standard deviations work. Getting 84% correct is not the same thing as being in the 84th percentile. Without knowing the mean and standard deviations of the raw scores, you can't work out how raw scores translate into standardized scores. For all you know, only 5% of the population gets 38 or above correct.


You are right 100%!!!

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PostPosted: Fri Nov 27, 2009 12:43 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Who gives a sh** about Mensa approved tests?

IQ testing is often a bi-product of other test, and it was never set up for brain proud individuals. It is not very good in that respect. It was designed to find relative deficiencies and is not a measure of intelligence.
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PostPosted: Tue Feb 02, 2010 8:18 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

TOS regarding the above message?

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PostPosted: Tue Feb 02, 2010 8:20 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Exclamation

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PostPosted: Tue Feb 02, 2010 10:51 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

mumiland, have you read the TOS of WP?
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PostPosted: Tue Feb 02, 2010 11:23 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

pandd wrote:
mumiland, have you read the TOS of WP?

Have you? What is TOS saying about the above quote regarding tests?
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PostPosted: Thu Feb 11, 2010 5:46 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

0_equals_true wrote:
Who gives a sh** about Mensa approved tests?

IQ testing is often a bi-product of other test, and it was never set up for brain proud individuals. It is not very good in that respect. It was designed to find relative deficiencies and is not a measure of intelligence.


Have you read the TOS of WP?
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PostPosted: Sat Jun 05, 2010 11:50 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

2 days later, i must present the figure reasoning test, i wanna ask you, what is the figure reasoning test ?
what is the background of this test ?
what is the function of this test ?
how about the administration of this test ?
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PostPosted: Sat Jun 05, 2010 12:09 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

IIRC (and I may be wrong about this), this test measures something other than mathematical ability, so I wouldn't assume that someone who can't work out certain complicated equations (especially if said someone doesn't know how the test is scored to begin with, hence not knowing what equations to work out anyway-- and, as was said, we would need to know the mean and standard deviation) couldn't have gotten 38/45 (an arbitrary number given that we don't know how hard the test was) correct.

...I suppose I could go into Aspie Research Mode and find your answer if you want, but you'll get your score eventually anyway.
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PostPosted: Sat Jun 05, 2010 12:15 pm    Post subject: Re: Questions about the IQ test FRT, Figure Reasoning Test Reply with quote

olle wrote:
Today I took an IQ test called FRT, administered by Mensa Sweden. The test had 45 questions and I had 20 minutes. I could do 38 before the time was out, and I think I solved, if not very, almost every, of those 38 problems. So I figure my score is pretty close to 38 of 45.

My estimated IQ will be sent by mail within 6 weeks, so I thought I'd try estimate something on my own. Does anyone know anything about the FRT test and how the raw score translates to IQ? Please? Pleeeaase? Wink


I'd google it. It sounds interesting. I'd love to find another kind of IQ test for my little guy to take. He comes out OK on a standard IQ, but is prodigious (top one percent of the top one percent) on other kinds of tests. That's not unusual for a divergent thinker, but that's not exactly how he is either. He's already a member of MENSA, and he's great how he is, I'm just really curious about how his unusual mind works. He's 9.
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