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25 Sep 2008, 4:48 pm

I've been reading posts from women who say they always felt kind of tomboyish....but what about girls who weren't girly girls but wanted to be or tried to be with varying levels of sucess or just girls who like to dress nice but still have the problems with eye contact, conversations, immaturity etc? I guess what I'm asking is are women with Asperger's automatically more "tomboyish" or "asexual" as I've heard some people say?



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25 Sep 2008, 4:50 pm

Yes, girly girls can have AS.

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25 Sep 2008, 5:04 pm

My dad made me wear lots of dresses so I was in the habit of dressing like a girl. After my parents divorced I was around my cousin (NT) and she utterly despised dresses so I copied her and suddenly a dress was taboo and I hated them.
I wasn't a very feminine child but extremely light. "Feathery" People mistook me for a boy a lot of the time, even when I wore dresses, lol. I just had an adrogynous look. I guess when someone looks androgynous, people tend to go with the male gender, if they have to make a guesstimate.



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25 Sep 2008, 5:05 pm

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I've been reading posts from women who say they always felt kind of tomboyish....but what about girls who weren't girly girls but wanted to be or tried to be with varying levels of sucess or just girls who like to dress nice but still have the problems with eye contact, conversations, immaturity etc? I guess what I'm asking is are women with Asperger's automatically more "tomboyish" or "asexual" as I've heard some people say?

sister is classic hf aspie and she is like that a lot,she even used to avoid computer games because mostly boys played them at the time though she grew out of that.
She still does the whole girly stereotype.

am think the reason aspies,auties,and spectrumers are seen to be more male like is because of the extreme male brain association with asd,ASDers are supposed to have more of those male chemicals or whatever it is [cant remember the techy words for it] with some having more than others.
Some males on the spectrum are more female like and there has been some on here/.


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25 Sep 2008, 5:43 pm

Oh, yeah. This Aspie girl I mentor (she's 17), not only is a girly girl, but being feminine is one of the things she's obsessed with. She constantly worries about her weight and image and does her hair/makeup very precisely. I think she's a girly girl in every sense!



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25 Sep 2008, 5:47 pm

Fidget wrote:
Yes, girly girls can have AS.

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lol. Yes, of course!



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25 Sep 2008, 5:56 pm

In my appearance, manner, and choice of (preferences for & talents at) activities, or topics of conversation I'm not very "tomboy-ish", nor am I particularly girly-girl (but am not asexual nor androgynous, either).
Have some features of various extreme "types", not only from a single category.
I loathe children/babies. I don't like sports. (just 2 examples that might put me in one gender stereotype category or other). Could go on listing in microscopic detail-hope my point is clear.

Yes, people who are very "into" feminine-associated ("so-called") characteristics, styles, habits of mind, etc. can have/be AS. I don't buy Baron-Cohen's testosterone/systematizing mind theory as explaining the whole syndrome, though it may have validity in some cases.


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25 Sep 2008, 6:08 pm

But of course AS females can be girly girls.

In fact, I am a girly-girl.

Makeup, dresses, stuff like that. :roll:


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25 Sep 2008, 6:58 pm

I was a tom boy growing up but I still wore girl clothes and dresses and played with my own toys which were girl toys. I was never into make up but I did play with fake make up I had. I was a tom boy till about age 10 but I still played with my brothers' toys.



I am no asexual and I also think about my weight.



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25 Sep 2008, 7:45 pm

Being a "girly girl" is a personality thing, not a neurological thing, in my opinion.


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25 Sep 2008, 8:06 pm

anneurysm wrote:
This Aspie girl I mentor (she's 17), not only is a girly girl, but being feminine is one of the things she's obsessed with.


Interesting. When I was really young (ages 2-5), some of my milder "special interests" included make-up and jewelry. But I never got into Barbie dolls until I was about 7. I never was a "girly girl" by typical standards, but I did used to like more "girly" stuff. But, since age 11, the only type of fashion that interests me is old-time fashion from the 1920s-1950s, and I do not care at all about being "girly." So, in response to the question, yes, it's quite possible for "girly girls" to have AS, but it does seem to be more common for AS girls to not be "girly" as often as neurotypical girls.
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25 Sep 2008, 10:22 pm

Asexual girly-girl here! :wink:
Yep...I do exist...



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25 Sep 2008, 10:25 pm

I loved make up and jewelry as a child, I liked Barbies, Cabbage Patch kids and baby dolls. If thats not girly then what is? It is definitely to be very feminine and be under the spectrum.


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26 Sep 2008, 5:26 am

I'm not asexual but I was always a tomboy and when I did Simon Baron-Cohen's EQ/SQ tests, I scored like 7 on the EQ and 69 on the SQ which is Extreme S type Brain which is consider "male-brained". I figure there are girls on the spectrum that are more feminine.