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Is house an aspie?
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no
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PostPosted: Wed Nov 19, 2008 12:20 am    Post subject: Is house M.D. an aspie???????? Reply with quote

Dr. Gregory house from the tv show...house...how many think he shows aspie traits...vote!
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PostPosted: Wed Nov 19, 2008 12:51 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I brought this up in the chat room once. Everyone disagreed though.

For a while I thought he was aspergers, but now that I know more about the condition, the one flaw in this theory is that he seems to know what everyone is thinking.

On the other side of the coin, I read somewhere that the character is based off of shirlock holmes, who, actually, was based off of a professor of Sir Conan Doyle's, Dr. Joseph Bell. This professor was known for noticing intricate details that others would miss and for his problem solving, or deductive reasoning, based on the details. Dr. Joseph Bell is actually very much like House, in that he is pioneer in forensic science and a surgeon.

I seem to recall reading somewhere that the professor would lock him self away for days sometimes to clear his mind; this might have translated to Holmes' cocaine addiction in the stories.

Dr. Joseph Bell sounds as though he could have been asperger's from what I've read. But who knows.
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PostPosted: Wed Nov 19, 2008 1:54 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I am convinced he is, despite what looks like an incredible ToM.

I'm just waiting for the impossible (?) episode where he gets faced with a auti-related problem, from which he gets faced with the problem of why=how he was capable of getting it, and must face the possibilities and consequences of the dictum 'it takes one to know one'.

Somehow, he is highly manipulative without being manipulative, by means of his honesty as well.

There is one other question: how honest is House;
and, linked, how honest is House to himself?

This relates to why is he so brutally honest? Is that just for honesty's sake (rationally dressed up as the challenge of the medical puzzle) or is there, at some level, a care-driven medical necessity to be right.
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PostPosted: Wed Nov 19, 2008 2:43 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I think there was an episode where they dealt with an autistic kid and as one of the other characters, I think it was Cuddy, was listing off characteristics, another one hinted that it sounded a lot like House. I'll have to search through my box of dvd's (I'm in the middle of moving) and try to find it.
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PostPosted: Wed Nov 19, 2008 3:05 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hey, I found it. Season 3, episode 4.

You've gotta love the obsessive nature of people on the internet, because I found the script from it, and they actually bring up Aperger's...

http://community.livejournal.com/clinic_duty/13918.html wrote:

(Much later, Wilson walks into Cuddy's office with a big book.)

Wilson: I'm going to read you something. "Asperger's syndrome is a mild and rare form of autism. It is typically characterized by difficulty establishing friendships and playing with peers, trouble accepting conventional social rules, and they dislike any change in setting or routine"... or broadloom. Doesn't say that last part but you get my point.

Cuddy: House doesn't have Asperger's, diagnosis is much simpler; he's a jerk.

Wilson: Why do you think he took this case? Because he believes these parents? Because he wants to help a young boy? He sees himself in this kid and he's trying to help himself. He doesn't want this, he needs it.


(Later House is sitting on a couch in front of Adam's room watching the family as they prepare to leave; Wilson comes up and leans on the pillar next to the couch.)

Wilson: You're not autistic; you don't even have Asperger's. You wish you did, it would exempt you from the rules, give you freedom, absolve you of responsibility, let you date 17-yr-olds. But most important it would mean that you're not just a jerk.

House: At what point does a person endlessly lecturing someone make him a jerk? [Silence for a while as they watch the family.] First tongue kiss, an 8 on the happiness scale. (Possibly harking back to the scale Wilson was talking about in 3.01 Meaning.) Your child being snatched back from the brink of death, that's a 10. They're clocking in at a very tepid 6.5 because they know what they have to go back to.
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PostPosted: Wed Nov 19, 2008 3:15 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

very good effort, Owendust

it's Wilson isn't it, he holds the clue
he's the Watson

I am fairly convinced House must have been designed with autism in mind.
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PostPosted: Wed Nov 19, 2008 3:44 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

at least he likes the same jokes. (sarcastic jokes)
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PostPosted: Wed Nov 19, 2008 4:19 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I think he does, I also think that he has tought himself to try and act in ways he does to alow himself to be alone. I am actualy teaching myself to try and look at peoples emotions logicaly and stuff, and think with a bit of work I probably could become just as manipulative.
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PostPosted: Wed Nov 19, 2008 4:26 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I think he's an aspie. I taught myself theory of mind, so it stands to reason anyone could if they learned it their way. Plus, the mans a bloody genius, ToM might have been one of his obsessions as a kid.
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PostPosted: Wed Nov 19, 2008 5:18 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'm an aspie. Confirmed. And today I was told by someone that I have very good personal skills. Its possible to learn them. Human behavior was my special interest for a long time.

I Think House is an aspie. In that episode with the autistic kid, the kid holds eye contact with House at the end. He didnt even make eye contact with his parents. Thats a statement loud and clear: House is on the spectrum.
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PostPosted: Wed Nov 19, 2008 5:37 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I am pretty sure he would be. While he knows a lot on people's motives and how they work, so do I.

The one thing House lacks - as well as I - is that actual real time empathy. For lack of a better word...

House seems to know what everyone is supposed to be thinking. I can do that too. I have been called 'very empathic' for this.

But what House doesn't know is what the people are actually thinking. That is noticeable throughout the series.

That his assumptions go conform with reality very often is perfectly possible. I am a real person (unlike House) and my predictions are usually true as well.

He's got a certain form of cleverness that makes it super easy to read and use the patterns of how people are supposed to function. That doesn't go against the nature of autism.
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PostPosted: Wed Nov 19, 2008 6:39 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

He doesn't have bloody Aspergers! He used to be kind, loving, and downright "normal" before his leg became lame (Christ, did no-one watch THAT episode?!). He got so obsessed with keeping his leg that he lost his marriage, and so now he lives on painkillers and other ppl's misery. He's bitter and depressed, and highly intelligent.

Just because he isn't a mind reader, or stupid, does not mean he's autistic.
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PostPosted: Wed Nov 19, 2008 7:03 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

LadyMacbeth wrote:
He doesn't have bloody Aspergers! He used to be kind, loving, and downright "normal" before his leg became lame (Christ, did no-one watch THAT episode?!). He got so obsessed with keeping his leg that he lost his marriage, and so now he lives on painkillers and other ppl's misery. He's bitter and depressed, and highly intelligent.

Just because he isn't a mind reader, or stupid, does not mean he's autistic.


He DOESN'T live on other people's misery. Sometimes the solutions end up being FUNNY! What about the mother that brought her little girl in for convulsions, and it turned out they were SELF INDUCED, and she LIKE IT! And what of the little boy that had LFA autism? The painkillers are because he has to walk on a leg with muscle that is partially dead, due to an infarction.

Are you saying that ALL of his personal life changed because of his obsession?

Frankly, there HAVE been times I was like house, where I knew how to solve a problem, and merely gave hints to others and was curious how they would pursue the task. I used to be VERY neat, and nice to a fault. NOW, I see little point in the neatness(others just interfered too much), and I don't even like people as a group. With all that, there IS plenty to be depressed about.

As for his ToM, etc...? He always arrives at it logically. In the original Sherlock holmes, there is a time where watson describes asperger aspects holmes has. HE sounds like he has aspergers. Whether it is the routine, social isolation, way of thinking, observations, etc...
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PostPosted: Wed Nov 19, 2008 10:02 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

He's much too good at reading people.

I'd put him somewhere along the lines of narcissist/schizoid/antisocial, but not fully in any of those categories. There's no diagnosis for "jerk", so... Smile
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PostPosted: Wed Nov 19, 2008 12:55 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Callista wrote:
He's much too good at reading people.


Agreed, he doesn't just have theory of mind, he's practically psychic. He consistently displays an incredible ability to get inside people's heads. Moreover, he doesn't display any difficulties in two-sided interactions (when he feels like talking to the person), interpreting nonverbal communication, changing routines, sensory sensitivities, etc.

Just because someone is arrogant, intelligent, and contemptuous of social convention, doesn't make them autistic.
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