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jread Snowy Owl


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iceb Tarkalean hawk


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Posted: Fri Dec 05, 2008 12:54 am Post subject: |
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Sorry, I can't see how paying the extra dollar could be intentional. _________________ Wisdom must be gathered, it cannot be given.
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pensieve Autist and Artist


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Posted: Fri Dec 05, 2008 12:55 am Post subject: |
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Yes, I got the Aspie answer too.
I think his only intent was the get the biggest smoothie available. But who has a smoothie when they are dehydrated? I'd go with water. |
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AliasPseudonym Yellow-bellied Woodpecker


Joined: May 25, 2008 Age: 19 Posts: 74
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Posted: Fri Dec 05, 2008 1:06 am Post subject: |
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...I thought he got the cup intentionally. If you cut the crap, the exchange went
'The biggest smoothie comes in a commemorative cup.'
'Gimmie the biggest smoothie.'
and the other one went
'The biggest smoothie costs an extra dollar'
'Gimmie the biggest smoothie.'
Of course he got the cup on purpose and of course he paid the money on purpose. If he didn't want to pay he could have gotten something smaller and if he didn't want the cup he would have said so. But if you say he didn't get the cup on purpose, you should say he also didn't pay the money on purpose, because the reasoning that leads to each conclusion is identical. |
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elderwanda Lemon Zing


Joined: Nov 18, 2008 Age: 42 Posts: 1417 Location: San Francisco Bay Area
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Posted: Fri Dec 05, 2008 1:09 am Post subject: |
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I think it depends on what is meant by "intentionally". I answered both with "no", because to me, his only intention was to get the biggest drink possible. The type of cup and the price of the drink were not an issue. I fail to see how avoiding or not avoiding getting stuck with some hideous cup is any different than avoiding or not-avoiding paying an extra dollar.
I wonder, is getting the commemorative cup meant to be seen as desirable, while paying the extra dollar is meant to be seen as undesirable? Is that where the difference lies? I'm still not getting it.
And there I was, feeling all fraudulent about feeling like I might be an aspie, because I don't flap my hands and laugh loudly at jokes I don't get.
BTW, my husband, who is an NT, aspie-like engineer, has just spent the past ten minutes analyzing this whole thing and explaining the reasoning behind his answer (the nt answer), until I had to shout, "Okay!!!!" So, now I understand the reasoning behind the nt answer, after my husband's long-winded, unsolicited lecture. I'm standing by mine, though. |
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AliasPseudonym Yellow-bellied Woodpecker


Joined: May 25, 2008 Age: 19 Posts: 74
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Posted: Fri Dec 05, 2008 1:54 am Post subject: |
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| Spokane_Girl wrote: | | iceb wrote: | | Sorry, I can't see how paying the extra dollar could be intentional. |
Because if he didn't want to pay an extra dollar, he would have just walked out the door, not buying a smoothie because he didn't like the change in price. But because he knew they cost a dollar more because he was informed by the cashier, so therefore he chose to pay an extra dollar. Get it? |
Same with the cup. He could have chosen to not get it. It's not a difficult choice, but if you take it like that, he was intending to get the cup when he ordered the smoothie at the end, whereas he wasn't when he first for the drink. Same with the money. |
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Samara Velociraptor


Joined: Nov 24, 2008 Age: 27 Posts: 452
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Posted: Fri Dec 05, 2008 2:01 am Post subject: |
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I have a bad habit I learnt when i was a kid and i dont do no more except sometimes when i have been drinking.
It's like i dont think I just do it and cause i ask in such a sweet way it always works. |
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AliasPseudonym Yellow-bellied Woodpecker


Joined: May 25, 2008 Age: 19 Posts: 74
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Posted: Fri Dec 05, 2008 2:03 am Post subject: |
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| If I thought there was a reasonable change that the cashier wouldn't give him the cup, I would have changed my answer, but I don't think there was, and I do think he expected to get the cup when he said he didn't care about it (don't care for it would have meant he didn't want it.) |
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Prosser The reason you're gonna slap away everyday


Joined: Nov 10, 2008 Age: 18 Posts: 1134 Location: Perth, Westen Australia
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Posted: Fri Dec 05, 2008 2:47 am Post subject: |
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| AliasPseudonym wrote: | ...I thought he got the cup intentionally. If you cut the crap, the exchange went
'The biggest smoothie comes in a commemorative cup.'
'Gimmie the biggest smoothie.'
and the other one went
'The biggest smoothie costs an extra dollar'
'Gimmie the biggest smoothie.'
Of course he got the cup on purpose and of course he paid the money on purpose. If he didn't want to pay he could have gotten something smaller and if he didn't want the cup he would have said so. But if you say he didn't get the cup on purpose, you should say he also didn't pay the money on purpose, because the reasoning that leads to each conclusion is identical. |
thats what I thought _________________ I wandered though the weird and lurid landscape of another planet.
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Tails Velociraptor


Joined: Nov 01, 2005 Age: 25 Posts: 432 Location: Planet Mobius?
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Posted: Fri Dec 05, 2008 3:39 am Post subject: |
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That... confused me. I knew what I was supposed to answer for the second one, but it didn't feel right. The premise was the same as the first one, so I don't really understand why the intention would be different. Both things (the cup and the extra dollar) were superflous details that he didn't care about. So why would the answer be different? _________________ ~I wanna fly high, so I can reach the highest of all the heavens
Somebody will be waiting for me, so I've got to fly higher~ |
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Paperplate Snowy Owl


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Posted: Fri Dec 05, 2008 3:45 am Post subject: |
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Wasn't his only intention to get the large smoothie, irrespective of getting a cup or paying extra.  _________________ only dead fish go with the flow |
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