Callista
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| y-pod wrote: | | So, does this mean HFA include AS? That AS is a sub-group of HFA? |
AS is a sub-group of autism, and not a well-defined one at that! Not all Aspies are "high-functioning" by many definitions. There are quite a few of us who can't live alone and do need daily help. I say we dump functioning labels, merge autism into a big category, and deal with the fact that autism can be very diverse. I know some doctors don't want to do that, because that means they might have to (*gasp!*) actually look at the individual person instead of stereotyping them by diagnosis, but they're a smart bunch and they'll adapt. They'd better, anyway, or I'll be flaming them on my blog. 
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btbnnyr
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| How eggsacly are clinicians diagnosing Asperger's in children nowadays? Are they basing it entirely on speech delay or lack thereof, or how much the child talks and interacts with them in the office, or VIQ, or following an Asperger's child stereotype? Each person probably uses a different Very Important Criterion, I guess, and that is why diagnoses are so inconsistent across sites. |
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OJani
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| btbnnyr wrote: | | How eggsacly are clinicians diagnosing Asperger's in children nowadays? Are they basing it entirely on speech delay or lack thereof, or how much the child talks and interacts with them in the office, or VIQ, or following an Asperger's child stereotype? Each person probably uses a different Very Important Criterion, I guess, and that is why diagnoses are so inconsistent across sites. |
Eggsacly! Although they don't use VIQ/PIQ any more, as they are discontinued in the WAIS / WISC-IV, so they might use the 4 sub-indexes instead. |
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Sora
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Let me think.
All kids I know who got the AS label instead of the atypical/classical one got it because while they're considered seriously impaired and sometimes even "severe", they're 1) considered to be less severe than those with classical autism. I keep on hearing that again and again.
And 2) they were "not delayed" throughout their first few years of life though autistic traits were present and noticed. I can't tell if that can be right.
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zette
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| OJani wrote: |
Eggsacly! Although they don't use VIQ/PIQ any more, as they are discontinued in the WAIS / WISC-IV, so they might use the 4 sub-indexes instead. |
When my son got his AS dx, the psychologist did indeed use the differences in the sub-indexes for verbal vs performance, plus the scores on the ADOS, plus she looked for the "triad of impairments" -- motor skill delay, social delays, and pragmatic communication issues. |
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