Oodain
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| TM wrote: | | wokndead wrote: | | TM wrote: | | AspieOtaku wrote: | | No need to become racist over a bad experience or a couple, not all are bad. Besides there are racists in all groups not only white here is a prime example I can show more but you get my point. I frown upon racism because its a display of hatred and ignorance that views other people as subhuman. I wish the whole world would open up and learn we are all the same species the only differences is the color of melanin in skin due to slight mutations and adaptations to different geographical climate. No ethic group is superior over the other. When you let hatred consume you, you become no better. |
What if the hatred stems from a rational evaluation of the culture of an ethnic group within a certain geographic area? |
Hatred, itself, is irrational. Accepting differences is key. |
Acceptance is BS, tolerance can be used in some cases, but tolerating intolerable behavior is called being a coward. |
agreed there exists unacceptable behavior, hatred is a part of that.
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AceOfSpades
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Here's an answer that isn't racist or politically correct.
It's subcultural values and it has a widespread influence on Black youth. |
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WilliamWDelaney
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I don't see what's wrong with directing that hatred at retarded ruffians who attack and hurt people just for looking different or acting different. For example, if a white security guard would harass me, a white guy, over my AS and tourettes, how would he behave toward a black guy who had the same type of symptoms? It would be "shoot first and ask questions later." He'd see a black guy who twitches weirdly "as if he were on drugs," behaves eccentrically, has trouble timing his eye contact right, and generally can't seem to get "into rhythm." If he were to provoke an argument with said black guy, the black guy's tourettes-associated rage would justify, to any witness, sufficient threat to shoot him dead. It's probably happened, and the security guard probably went home feeling like a hero over it.
So how about we just hate ALL retarded ruffians and vigilante pricks, whatever color their skin is? |
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TM
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| Oodain wrote: | | TM wrote: | | wokndead wrote: | | TM wrote: | | AspieOtaku wrote: | | No need to become racist over a bad experience or a couple, not all are bad. Besides there are racists in all groups not only white here is a prime example I can show more but you get my point. I frown upon racism because its a display of hatred and ignorance that views other people as subhuman. I wish the whole world would open up and learn we are all the same species the only differences is the color of melanin in skin due to slight mutations and adaptations to different geographical climate. No ethic group is superior over the other. When you let hatred consume you, you become no better. |
What if the hatred stems from a rational evaluation of the culture of an ethnic group within a certain geographic area? |
Hatred, itself, is irrational. Accepting differences is key. |
Acceptance is BS, tolerance can be used in some cases, but tolerating intolerable behavior is called being a coward. |
agreed there exists unacceptable behavior, hatred is a part of that. |
I'm one of those people who happens to think that hatred, anger, rage, fear and a lot of the other negative emotions are the most fantastic emotions we have because they can be channeled towards accomplishment. |
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Oodain
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| Posted: Wed Mar 28, 2012 10:34 am Post subject: |
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| TM wrote: | | Oodain wrote: | | TM wrote: | | wokndead wrote: | | TM wrote: | | AspieOtaku wrote: | | No need to become racist over a bad experience or a couple, not all are bad. Besides there are racists in all groups not only white here is a prime example I can show more but you get my point. I frown upon racism because its a display of hatred and ignorance that views other people as subhuman. I wish the whole world would open up and learn we are all the same species the only differences is the color of melanin in skin due to slight mutations and adaptations to different geographical climate. No ethic group is superior over the other. When you let hatred consume you, you become no better. |
What if the hatred stems from a rational evaluation of the culture of an ethnic group within a certain geographic area? |
Hatred, itself, is irrational. Accepting differences is key. |
Acceptance is BS, tolerance can be used in some cases, but tolerating intolerable behavior is called being a coward. |
agreed there exists unacceptable behavior, hatred is a part of that. |
I'm one of those people who happens to think that hatred, anger, rage, fear and a lot of the other negative emotions are the most fantastic emotions we have because they can be channeled towards accomplishment. |
so can positive emotions,
that said i agree there are no "bad" emotions, only bad ways to deal with them.
denouncing an entire group of humans based on what in most cases is nothing but information filtering and presumption is arguably not a very productive or accomplished way of dealing with that.
you can claim its based on rational observation but only very few people stand in a situation where there observations are directly indicative of reality, that requires first hand experience or ridicoulously detailed surveys with ridicoulous amounts of people, i cant think of a single survey done to a standard where i trust its conclusion implicitly, i only take a few serious and usually they are the ones where they provide multiple explanations and the argumentation and data behind them, showing clearly that even they have serious doubts about what conclusions can be made.
why not find a way of constructively using those emotions, such as the youth groups i have seen where i live, they add plenty to the cities value and the initiative has shown promise in many danish cities,
they host free live music events every friday with local musicians, they arrange real concerts, built two entire skateparks, one of which was a part of a larger city project and give young people a reason to intermingle and coexist, there doesnt exist a part of this city i dont feel comfortable walking in at night alone.
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AstroGeek
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| Posted: Wed Mar 28, 2012 11:15 am Post subject: |
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| Oodain wrote: | why not find a way of constructively using those emotions, such as the youth groups i have seen where i live, they add plenty to the cities value and the initiative has shown promise in many danish cities,
they host free live music events every friday with local musicians, they arrange real concerts, built two entire skateparks, one of which was a part of a larger city project and give young people a reason to intermingle and coexist, there doesnt exist a part of this city i dont feel comfortable walking in at night alone. |
[sarcasm]Yes, but Denmark is a socialist country. That's not the American way.[/sarcasm] |
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ruveyn
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I have been physically attacked by white folks. What should I make of that?
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Oodain
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| Posted: Wed Mar 28, 2012 12:40 pm Post subject: |
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| ruveyn wrote: | I have been physically attacked by white folks. What should I make of that?
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that there are jerks anywhere an everywhere you go, but that the rate of jerks vary wildly depedning on enviroment and circumstance.
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ruveyn
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| Joker wrote: | | I got beat up in school by all kinds of people but I did my fair share of beating people up to. |
Being bullied has its uses. For one thing, it motivates one to learn self defense. As soon as I learned how to break bones and pull apart joints I find that I was less bullied and finally not bullied at all.
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visagrunt
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I've attacked you plenty, ruveyn. Perhaps you should adopt some anti-semitism while you're at it.
In all seriousness, there is no excuse for bullying. But the identity of the bullies should not be allowed to tar all of their fellows with the same brush.
Not all blacks are muggers.
Not all Italians are mafiosi.
Not all muslims are terrorists.
Not all jews are exploiters.
Not all americans are ignoramuses.
Condemn the offender, not the offender's community.
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Joker
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| ruveyn wrote: | | Joker wrote: | | I got beat up in school by all kinds of people but I did my fair share of beating people up to. |
Being bullied has its uses. For one thing, it motivates one to learn self defense. As soon as I learned how to break bones and pull apart joints I find that I was less bullied and finally not bullied at all.
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Yes I was motivated to learn self defense after dealing with bullies in school I took ametur wrestling and became a student of greco roman wrestling as well a lot of people stopped trying to bully me when they did I made sure to snap a bone or two they didnt do it again. |
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Vigilans
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I have been assaulted physically by French Quebeckers on several occasions for the fact that I am an Anglophone. This has not changed my view towards the rest of them. The cycle has to stop somewhere, and I am not an enabler
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Joker
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| Vigilans wrote: | | I have been assaulted physically by French Quebeckers on several occasions for the fact that I am an Anglophone. This has not changed my view towards the rest of them. The cycle has to stop somewhere, and I am not an enabler |
Congrats I mean that to being a enabler is never a good thing but learning self defense can help deal with not just bullies but those who try to steal harm or mugg you or who will attack you based on your nationality or race it happens and ive been attacked for being a half breed since im not 100% cherokee. |
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Vigilans
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| Joker wrote: | | Vigilans wrote: | | I have been assaulted physically by French Quebeckers on several occasions for the fact that I am an Anglophone. This has not changed my view towards the rest of them. The cycle has to stop somewhere, and I am not an enabler |
Congrats I mean that to being a enabler is never a good thing but learning self defense can help deal with not just bullies but those who try to steal harm or mugg you or who will attack you based on your nationality or race it happens and ive been attacked for being a half breed since im not 100% cherokee. |
I have taken some martial arts and done fighting in defense. I would not say I am anything special though, maybe just quick. I can hold my own but I am not an aggressive person. Causing someone pain is profoundly... creepy... to me
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Joker
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| Vigilans wrote: | | Joker wrote: | | Vigilans wrote: | | I have been assaulted physically by French Quebeckers on several occasions for the fact that I am an Anglophone. This has not changed my view towards the rest of them. The cycle has to stop somewhere, and I am not an enabler |
Congrats I mean that to being a enabler is never a good thing but learning self defense can help deal with not just bullies but those who try to steal harm or mugg you or who will attack you based on your nationality or race it happens and ive been attacked for being a half breed since im not 100% cherokee. |
I have taken some martial arts and done fighting in defense. I would not say I am anything special though, maybe just quick. I can hold my own but I am not an aggressive person. Causing someone pain is profoundly... creepy... to me |
Quickness is a good thing when taken martial arts I always try to over power them I will cause them pain though when im in a fight to get my point across I have a warriors spirit I like to fight. |
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