blauSamstag
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| Jacoby wrote: | | blauSamstag wrote: | | Burzum wrote: | | CrazyCatLord wrote: |
Ok then. I'll let Ron Paul himself do the commenting:
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Did Ron Paul himself say these things or were they in those newsletters?
Because it is rather dishonest of you to say "I'll let Ron do the commenting" if you have no proof that he himself said these things. |
I think Ron Paul has managerial culpability for the actions of people he authorizes to write and speak on his behalf.
Do you suggest that he does not? |
He didn't write them or read them or know of offending passages until years after the fact. If Dr. Paul is guilty then what does that make Obama for his relationships with Jeremiah Wright or Bill Ayers? |
They were written by people who worked for him at the time, whom he had authorized to speak on his behalf. They used his name with his authorization. Failure to know what they were putting his name on is on him entirely. You are essentially arguing that Ron Paul hasn't the managerial acumen to delegate a newsletter.
Jeremiah Wright and Bill Ayers do not, and have not ever worked for Obama, nor have they been authorized to speak on his behalf.
Except for the ghost writing gig, anyway. Ayers totally wrote all of Obama's books. |
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enrico_dandolo
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| TheExxpert wrote: | | And on funding, what difference does it make? He doesn't lend any support to those groups, he just accepts their donations. Just because they endorse him doesn't mean he endorses them. |
It means they have an interest in his victory.
I don't know much about Ron Paul, so I am talking hypothetically, but say you are a politician and receive funds from openly white supremacist groups. You didn't do anything wrong, but they would probably not give you money if you were not at least open to white supremacy. |
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snapcap
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| Posted: Tue May 08, 2012 10:11 am Post subject: |
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| enrico_dandolo wrote: |
It means they have an interest in his victory.
I don't know much about Ron Paul, so I am talking hypothetically, but say you are a politician and receive funds from openly white supremacist groups. You didn't do anything wrong, but they would probably not give you money if you were not at least open to white supremacy. |
That's why it's important to know every little detail about all your donators, including a blood sample. 
If you receive a donation from a homosexual, does that mean you want to have sex with them?
If you receive a donation from a heterosexual, does that mean you want to have sex with them?
If you receive a donation from a black person, does that mean you want to kill all white people?
If you receive a donation from an atheist, does that mean you want to kill off religion and God?
Yes to all the above, right? 
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enrico_dandolo
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What I meant is that by the time they give you money, it is already too late: you already have taken the positions which make them agree with you.
Also, I didn't say "a white supremacist", I said "openly white supremacist groups" (plural). Individual white supremacists, homosexuals, heterosexuals, black people and atheists can give money to people for unrelated reasons. Groups, less so. Several groups, not at all. |
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Burzum
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| Posted: Tue May 08, 2012 7:23 pm Post subject: |
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| blauSamstag wrote: |
I think Ron Paul has managerial culpability for the actions of people he authorizes to write and speak on his behalf.
Do you suggest that he does not? |
I suggested that it is dishonest to claim that someone said something when they did not, regardless of whether or not it was spoken on their behalf. |
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richardbenson
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| Making Mittens looks stupid really isnt that hard to do, However I do love Ron Paul. I wish he would get the nomination but the elitests in this country will never elecet a third party canidate because then they would loose alot of money. and money is power baby! |
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androbot2084
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| Posted: Fri May 11, 2012 10:15 pm Post subject: |
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| Ron Paul will destroy Medicare |
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