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rvacountrysinger
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03 Sep 2014, 4:29 pm

I love Jesus Christ and He is Lord! I always knew that. When I was 17 I got saved. But I knew something about this. I can't explain. God is so big and not really in the realms of human comprehension. I started reading the Bible and I believe He revealed himself through the Jewish culture and history so that we can understand at least part of HIM.

And Jesus Christ was born of a virgin and died on the cross and fulfilled scripture and came back to life and rose again and He died for our sins. He is definitely the Lord. But the Holy Spirit must convict your heart or it won't take. Many people will probably fall under delusion and be Godless. But if you really think about it. It makes perfect sense!

World was created. We were designed by God. We fell. God is perfection and we would perish in his sight
Jesus Christ came as a moderator between us and God. To see God you would surely die. Because of sin. But Jesus Christ paid for all sins. I am so glad that He saved me.



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03 Sep 2014, 4:32 pm

It makes no sense. There is probably no God at all, there was no fall, there is no sin, there is nothing to be saved from, we are made of particles and when we die nothing happens.



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03 Sep 2014, 4:34 pm

AspE wrote:
It makes no sense. There is probably no God at all, there was no fall, there is no sin, there is nothing to be saved from, we are made of particles and when we die nothing happens.


Perfect order and design in our Universe was from a Higher Power of authority. It makes sense to me!

There is sin all around us!! ! Look at the evil that goes on in this world.



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03 Sep 2014, 4:35 pm

Oh God.


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03 Sep 2014, 4:41 pm

A quick IP check indicates it isn't the recent religious troll back again. Looks like a new one. Oh God! :roll:


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03 Sep 2014, 4:44 pm

TallyMan wrote:
A quick IP check indicates it isn't the recent religious troll back again. Looks like a new one. Oh God! :roll:


I'm not a troll. I've been here for quite awhile.



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03 Sep 2014, 4:46 pm

rvacountrysinger wrote:
AspE wrote:
It makes no sense. There is probably no God at all, there was no fall, there is no sin, there is nothing to be saved from, we are made of particles and when we die nothing happens.


Perfect order and design in our Universe was from a Higher Power of authority. It makes sense to me!

There is sin all around us!! ! Look at the evil that goes on in this world.


Doesnt the second sentence contradict the first?



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03 Sep 2014, 4:46 pm

How many old crosses are under that bridge?
At least Shiva comes with better accessories.


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03 Sep 2014, 4:47 pm

rvacountrysinger wrote:
TallyMan wrote:
A quick IP check indicates it isn't the recent religious troll back again. Looks like a new one. Oh God! :roll:


I'm not a troll. I've been here for quite awhile.


So was the other one, lurking in the shadows until one day he goes full blown preacher on us. He was impossible to hold a dialogue with; he's swallowed all that BS about creationism and the earth being made by a god 6,000 years ago. Are you one of those YEC nutjobs too who's never picked up a science book in their life?


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03 Sep 2014, 5:13 pm

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How many old crosses are under that bridge?
At least Shiva comes with better accessories.


I know what Shiva accessory you've got your eye on! :lol:


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03 Sep 2014, 5:16 pm

:oops:


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03 Sep 2014, 5:18 pm

rvacountrysinger wrote:
AspE wrote:
It makes no sense. There is probably no God at all, there was no fall, there is no sin, there is nothing to be saved from, we are made of particles and when we die nothing happens.


Perfect order and design in our Universe was from a Higher Power of authority. It makes sense to me!

There is sin all around us!! ! Look at the evil that goes on in this world.

Yes, there is evil, but evil isn't sin. Even evil people often think they are doing good. Many of them are also religious. Some of them the same religion as you. Religion doesn't prevent evil and religion isn't the source of morality.

Also, the universe is as much chaos as order. It is far from perfect. In fact, it looks just as it should if there were nothing in control.

Besides, order isn't necessarily a sign of a "higher power". The "lower power" of the interaction between tiny particles contains far more explanatory power than reverting to primitive stereotypes about Gods and Goddesses.



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03 Sep 2014, 5:19 pm

naturalplastic wrote:
rvacountrysinger wrote:
AspE wrote:
It makes no sense. There is probably no God at all, there was no fall, there is no sin, there is nothing to be saved from, we are made of particles and when we die nothing happens.


Perfect order and design in our Universe was from a Higher Power of authority. It makes sense to me!

There is sin all around us!! ! Look at the evil that goes on in this world.


Doesnt the second sentence contradict the first?


Good point.



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03 Sep 2014, 5:58 pm

Jesus is Lord?

Well, I didn't vote for him.



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03 Sep 2014, 6:07 pm

rvacountrysinger wrote:
AspE wrote:
It makes no sense. There is probably no God at all, there was no fall, there is no sin, there is nothing to be saved from, we are made of particles and when we die nothing happens.


Perfect order and design in our Universe was from a Higher Power of authority. It makes sense to me!

There is sin all around us!! ! Look at the evil that goes on in this world.


Perfect order and design. That's a good one. Have you checked the world we live in lately. Earthquakes, pestilence, disease, tornado's, tsunami's. Animals that require the killing and inflicting of pain onto other animals to live. The list can go on all night. It seems far from perfect to me.

The world was flawed for billions of years before man even came onto the scene. So trying to blame the world's imperfection on man's fall would be absurd.



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03 Sep 2014, 6:10 pm

Don't forget genetic disorders and human-specific parasites.