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Lonelybonesey
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PostPosted: Tue Dec 04, 2007 11:45 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

My Dads an alcoholic
It ruins relationships, he hurts me with his cruel words but i know its the boze not him.
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PostPosted: Wed Dec 05, 2007 4:08 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Dokken wrote:
Here are some alternatives to Alcoholics Anonymous or other 12-step groups. People seem to fail to mention these, they just mention AA. AA isn't even effective.

Smart Recovery
http://www.smartrecovery.org/
LifeRing Secular Recovery
http://www.unhooked.com/index.htm
Practical Recovery alternatives to 12-Step
http://www.practicalrecovery.com/
WFS: Women For Sobriety
http://www.womenforsobriety.org/
Rational Recovery
http://www.rational.org/recovery/
SOS International
http://www.sossobriety.org/
U.S. SOS
http://www.secularsobriety.org/
Moderation Management
http://www.moderation.org/
great stuff, considering im an alcoholic and not really a fanboy of AA, those look like some good options. im serious now about making an effort to quit drinking. hopefully i can find a program that isnt too expencive
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PostPosted: Wed Dec 05, 2007 9:42 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

richardbenson wrote:
Dokken wrote:
Here are some alternatives to Alcoholics Anonymous or other 12-step groups. People seem to fail to mention these, they just mention AA. AA isn't even effective.

Smart Recovery
http://www.smartrecovery.org/
LifeRing Secular Recovery
http://www.unhooked.com/index.htm
Practical Recovery alternatives to 12-Step
http://www.practicalrecovery.com/
WFS: Women For Sobriety
http://www.womenforsobriety.org/
Rational Recovery
http://www.rational.org/recovery/
SOS International
http://www.sossobriety.org/
U.S. SOS
http://www.secularsobriety.org/
Moderation Management
http://www.moderation.org/
great stuff, considering im an alcoholic and not really a fanboy of AA, those look like some good options. im serious now about making an effort to quit drinking. hopefully i can find a program that isnt too expencive


Why would you have to pay for alcohol recovery?

Merle
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PostPosted: Fri Dec 07, 2007 5:41 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I am shocked Shocked

I got drunk last night at a club and i kissed a random guy. I am not proud and i now know personally that yes alcoho can make you do some crazy s*** especially when you drink it on an empty stomach Im really bad Embarassed
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PostPosted: Sun Dec 09, 2007 7:12 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

sinsboldly wrote:
richardbenson wrote:
Dokken wrote:
Here are some alternatives to Alcoholics Anonymous or other 12-step groups. People seem to fail to mention these, they just mention AA. AA isn't even effective.

Smart Recovery
http://www.smartrecovery.org/
LifeRing Secular Recovery
http://www.unhooked.com/index.htm
Practical Recovery alternatives to 12-Step
http://www.practicalrecovery.com/
WFS: Women For Sobriety
http://www.womenforsobriety.org/
Rational Recovery
http://www.rational.org/recovery/
SOS International
http://www.sossobriety.org/
U.S. SOS
http://www.secularsobriety.org/
Moderation Management
http://www.moderation.org/
great stuff, considering im an alcoholic and not really a fanboy of AA, those look like some good options. im serious now about making an effort to quit drinking. hopefully i can find a program that isnt too expencive


Why would you have to pay for alcohol recovery?

Merle
oh is it free?
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PostPosted: Mon Dec 10, 2007 4:09 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Iv only been drunk once in my life and that enough to never ever drink again (non alcoholic beverages are ok and nescessry to maintain hydration)
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PostPosted: Sat Dec 15, 2007 9:27 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

richardbenson wrote:
sinsboldly wrote:
richardbenson wrote:
Dokken wrote:
Here are some alternatives to Alcoholics Anonymous or other 12-step groups. People seem to fail to mention these, they just mention AA. AA isn't even effective.

Smart Recovery
http://www.smartrecovery.org/
LifeRing Secular Recovery
http://www.unhooked.com/index.htm
Practical Recovery alternatives to 12-Step
http://www.practicalrecovery.com/
WFS: Women For Sobriety
http://www.womenforsobriety.org/
Rational Recovery
http://www.rational.org/recovery/
SOS International
http://www.sossobriety.org/
U.S. SOS
http://www.secularsobriety.org/
Moderation Management
http://www.moderation.org/
great stuff, considering im an alcoholic and not really a fanboy of AA, those look like some good options. im serious now about making an effort to quit drinking. hopefully i can find a program that isnt too expencive


Why would you have to pay for alcohol recovery?

Merle
oh is it free?


mine was. . .oh I kicked in a couple bucks from time to time, but I went maybe three to five times a week for ten years and it was free.

why pay for it when it works for free?

Merle

ps sorry it took so long to get this posted, but sometimes WP doesn't tell me that a post has been replied to.
Sometimes WP does, this time it didn't
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PostPosted: Fri Dec 28, 2007 5:17 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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PostPosted: Fri Jan 18, 2008 9:33 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Dokken wrote:
Here are some alternatives to Alcoholics Anonymous or other 12-step groups. People seem to fail to mention these, they just mention AA. AA isn't even effective.

Smart Recovery
http://www.smartrecovery.org/
LifeRing Secular Recovery
http://www.unhooked.com/index.htm
Practical Recovery alternatives to 12-Step
http://www.practicalrecovery.com/
WFS: Women For Sobriety
http://www.womenforsobriety.org/
Rational Recovery
http://www.rational.org/recovery/
SOS International
http://www.sossobriety.org/
U.S. SOS
http://www.secularsobriety.org/
Moderation Management
http://www.moderation.org/


All of these are free, except for their books. Rehabs tend to use the 12-Step method. So, you should ask the rehab, if you're planning on going to one, if they use the 12-Steps. 95% of rehabs in the USA use the 12-Steps.
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PostPosted: Sat Jan 26, 2008 9:38 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Actually, I think this thread should stay right here in the help me forum.

I have a substance abuse problem.
The substance abuse people looked at me like I was crazy and I had to argue the feasability of treatment options *with them*.

The substance is tobacco.

I will try to enter inpatient in a few months with the blessings of my employer, if the case.
I know me. I know it is the only way.

I dont drink. I don't not drink either. I consider it irrelevant. It is not my vice.
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PostPosted: Thu Jan 31, 2008 2:48 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

SeaBright wrote:
Actually, I think this thread should stay right here in the help me forum.

I have a substance abuse problem.
The substance abuse people looked at me like I was crazy and I had to argue the feasability of treatment options *with them*.

The substance is tobacco.

I will try to enter inpatient in a few months with the blessings of my employer, if the case.
I know me. I know it is the only way.

I dont drink. I don't not drink either. I consider it irrelevant. It is not my vice.
Sea


Addiction is addiction is addiction.
you gotta do what you gotta do.

all the best,

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PostPosted: Fri Feb 15, 2008 5:49 pm    Post subject: Alcohol and Substance Abuse counselling thread Reply with quote

Addictions Publicized, not anonymous topic

It is good these problems are out in the open.

I have never had an alcohol problem. There is enough liquor and beer addicts in my family that I will pass on drinking. Smile

I quit smoking 27 years ago. Very Happy

But other addicitons/risk taking can surface. there are other family members with Rx drug addicitons, and gambling issues. I indulge in neither vice, though I realize tht it is possible at any time I have to take strong painkillers, expecially OTC, that problems can arise.

I empathize with anone dealing with these issues, illegal drugs-substance abuse included.
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PostPosted: Thu Feb 21, 2008 12:38 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I go to AA. It works, it can help you with socializing as well as a substance abuse problem. People at self-help groups are usually more than willing to help anyone someone with all their issues, not just the one the group is centered around.

And that's what I learned addiction usually is, usually someone is covering up their emotions or whatnot with some sort of substance so they don't have to deal with reality and pain. I could hook up with kids with aspbergers or even just dorky sort of kids before I went to AA, but I was such a self-centered asshole as a result of all substances I consumed, that I didn't know how to interact with them properly and was rejected.
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PostPosted: Sat Feb 23, 2008 11:15 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'm still in recovery which is hard right now. I'm not trying to blame my drinking on aspbergers. However, I used that as a social crutch. I've been in and out of hospitals for suicide and domestic abuse. It only took me 2 years for alcohol to catch on me. If I have one drink then I'm gone. Can't control it, gotta have more. Been sober for over a year now and it feels weird. I'm actually feeling things for the first time good and bad. It's still something I'm struggling with. I don't know how to call some of the people up at my AA meetings.
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PostPosted: Sat Mar 01, 2008 3:55 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Dokken wrote:
Dokken wrote:
Here are some alternatives to Alcoholics Anonymous or other 12-step groups. People seem to fail to mention these, they just mention AA. AA isn't even effective.

Smart Recovery
http://www.smartrecovery.org/
LifeRing Secular Recovery
http://www.unhooked.com/index.htm
Practical Recovery alternatives to 12-Step
http://www.practicalrecovery.com/
WFS: Women For Sobriety
http://www.womenforsobriety.org/
Rational Recovery
http://www.rational.org/recovery/
SOS International
http://www.sossobriety.org/
U.S. SOS
http://www.secularsobriety.org/
Moderation Management
http://www.moderation.org/


All of these are free, except for their books. Rehabs tend to use the 12-Step method. So, you should ask the rehab, if you're planning on going to one, if they use the 12-Steps. 95% of rehabs in the USA use the 12-Steps.


I used Rational Recovery at first. It worked, but it only halted my drinking and drugging, temporarily too. I don't know anything about the other methods. So RR can quickly stop the abuse of drugs for a rational person who likes to analyze everything, but it doesn't take care of some of the core issues that result from a drug-addled brain (even when all the substances drained out, I still felt hollow on the inside and I wasn't taking care of myself and I ESPECIALLY wasn't socializing). 12-steps take care of more than just the booze, they take care of why you went to the booze in the first place and how you can better yourself.


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