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pizzaboss
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| I have lack of lack of coordination. I have problems with fine motor skills, so I am unaware of things. |
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Sean
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| I bump into things and lose my balance all the time. I doubt I could pass a field sobriety test (A.K.A. roadside ballet) despite being a teetotalist. Smehow, I drive OK though. |
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Jetson
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Joined: Feb 23, 2005
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Location: Vancouver, Canada
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| Posted: Sun May 29, 2005 8:53 am Post subject: Re: Do you have problems with proprioception (body awareness |
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| magic wrote: | | I can touch my nose with eyes closed (people with proprioception impairments often have problem with this test). |
I have no problem with that test, either. Maybe the test is useless? I find a better indication of the problem is to close my eyes, bend both elbows and then try to touch my fingers together a foot or so in front of my face. I usually miss by an inch or two.
I experience all of the other factors you mentioned, and usually sleep with my hands between my knees. I think proprioception may also be a driving force behind the leg-movement stims I do when I'm sitting at a desk for a long time, as the movement helps to reintegrate my body sense. When riding my motorcycle for any sort of distance on the highway I lose awareness of my arms. I can still steer and throttle because I can apply a differential force to the handles just using my wrists, but it feels like my hands are floating in space and not really connected to me. The proprioception returns when I get off the highway as I have to use my arms to support my upper body weight (it's a racing bike).
Something that really helps with limb proprioception is to wear something tight. I have a long-sleeve rash-guard (lycra shirt intended for surfing) that really works well for this.
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Jetson
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| fred wrote: | | anybody with synesthesia? that would be so cool, seeing sounds, smelling colors. might make up for moving by bumping. |
I seem to have a sound-over-vision priority. If it's dark or my eyes are closed, sudden sounds will result in the appearance of bright flashes of light (like TV snow).
I have also noticed that when I'm in a very noisy environment my vision slowly becomes degraded -- first I lose my peripheral vision and the normal attention reaction to movement as well as the will to scan my environment, then I lose focus, and eventually get a nearly irresistable urge to squint or close my eyes.
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Sophist
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Joined: Apr 24, 2005
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Location: Louisville, KY
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| Posted: Sun May 29, 2005 2:56 pm Post subject: |
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Jetson wrote:
| Quote: | | Quote: | | I can touch my nose with eyes closed (people with proprioception impairments often have problem with this test). |
I have no problem with that test, either. Maybe the test is useless? |
I think that test is more accurate for those who only have incredibly SEVERE proprioception problems. Because I do have such problems and am usually fine with finding my nose blind-folded, etc.. Same as some others have said on here.
I would agree: the test is probably useless without other tests to go along with it. Cause even though I can find my nose, I still get food all over my shirt when I am eating. (Maybe the test should ask a person to find their MOUTH instead of their nose, lol.)
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Neuroman
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Joined: Jul 05, 2005
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| Posted: Thu Jul 07, 2005 11:34 am Post subject: Continuum |
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I am clumsy.
If I am focused, I am not.
I also tap walls. Otherwise I run into them at the corners.
I have good spacial skills, otherwise I would be a walking wreck. I think the difference between me and NTs is that they do this inside their heads, that is, know where their bodies are. I do it from outside my head, so working my body is more like driving a car.
If I am aware, my gait is O.K.
If I am not driving my body, then people say I have an odd gait.
I can touch my nose with my eyes closed, but I too miss my mouth all the time when eating, sometimes comically - I put something in my mouth, start chewing, and realize it's not there. It's on my shirt. I often find lots of things on my shirt from eating. I usually eat with a t-shirt over my clothes, or I go into driving mode. I also often have trouble knowing where my teeth are vs my tongue and cheeks. So I bite myself a lot if I'm not concentrating when I eat.
I have been trying since I started writing this, and have so far been unable to touch my earlobes with my eyes closed.
I get up from the table and don't realize I am too close and I knock the table. Or I sit down in the chair and it's not there.
BTW, I have celiac disease (gluten intolerance) and when I have been exposed to wheat or some other source of gluten, these symptoms are much worse.
Not enough to keep me inside, though I do avoid eating out.
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Yameretzu
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I keep walking into walls. I even walked into a wall in my dream the other night.  |
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Nomaken
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Location: 31726 Windsor, Garden City, Michigan, 48135
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Oh yeah, i have all that, although i dont consider the feeling that i dont have a leg very horrifying. If i woke up to one day find out a limb was actually missing i would immediately think "Did i drink last night?" but not much besides that.
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anbuend
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I seem to have variable proprioception. (Gee, like that's news that I have variable anything.) And I never perceive more than a small portion of my body at once. That small portion I may be able to perceive and move around okay, but the minute I go to some other body part, then I lose the first one. So I can usually pass a proprioception test if it doesn't require too much of my body to be perceived at once or too rapidly.
Then there are the times when I have no sense of my body's position, which often coincides with not moving, or moving only in involuntary ways. (My service cat notices this and starts poking, nudging, nipping, and walking over various body parts rapidly until I can feel and move them again. A lot of people don't believe me, especially because she's fairly aloof even for a cat, until they see her do it. Also humans can learn to do it, but it's difficult to train them.)
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Sophist
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Location: Louisville, KY
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| Posted: Fri Jul 08, 2005 2:05 pm Post subject: ... |
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Awwwwwwww. You have a service cat? What's her name?
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anbuend
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Babka. She is pictured here with me when she was little:
http://www.isn.net/~jypsy/AuSpin/amanda1.htm
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Sophist
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Location: Louisville, KY
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Well I'll be horn-swaggled. I've seen you on the Autty Adults Pic Project! Babka is adorable.
S'me (without any of my cats):
http://www.isn.net/~jypsy/AuSpin/emily1.htm
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Tom
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| Posted: Fri Jul 08, 2005 3:13 pm Post subject: |
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| Is it an aspie thing, or just a human being thing? |
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tallgirl
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I find yoga and deep breathing techniques help establish awareness of my body. I have problems with Kung Fu practice, b/c of my proprioception issues. My instructors are very patient with me and help me mirror them.
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Sophist
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| Quote: | | Is it an aspie thing, or just a human being thing? |
tom, assuming you mean the subject of this thread: it is a neurological disorders thing generally speaking, Aspergers being included on the list.
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