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Silva20contraorder
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School made my head spin, I skipped a lot of it though , people were so polite yet not so accepting but anyway I wasn't a fan of school.
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Cyanide
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Oh man, I've always hated school. Before I entered elementary school, I was so god damn eager to learn. I was looking forward to this great experience that would intellectually stimulate me while obtaining a ton of information. Well, it pretty much turned out to be the opposite. I'm a sophomore in college now, and sometime in between then and now, that spirit died. Then it was pissed on, burnt, pissed on again, and thrown in a garbage can.
Back in elementary school, though, my only real complaint was that school wasn't nearly as challenging as I wanted it to be. In first grade, only me and one other kid knew how to read. Yeah, we got to read with some old lady in the back of the classroom while all the other kids were learning "sounds", but Jeff (the other kid) and I both could have read much harder books than what they gave us. Then in 4th grade, I remember we spent about 2 months on long division. Jesus Christ, if I've never seen a bigger waste of time... Me and about 4 or 5 others were so beyond what they were teaching us, but they had us stuffed into a box. I've always been kind of resentful because of that...
The social problems really didn't arise until I hit middle school. I was bullied for those entire 3 years. Then 99% of the people who didn't bully me just treated me like sh**. People would try to slam my locker door on my head, call me "Fag" every single god damn day in the hallways. I could hardly stand it. It was such a hostile environment.
When I got to high school though, there wasn't so much outward bullying. Everyone just ignored and ostracized me instead. I remember that in most of my classes, I'd be the only one without any friends. I used to be in the IHS program, which meant that for my core classes, I was with the same people for 2 1/2 years (I dropped out in the middle of junior year). I didn't even have a "table" at lunch until senior year. By that point, all school was for me was "Go to class, sit down for 80 minutes, leave, repeat." I felt like a hollow shell at that point. It didn't feel like going to school really had any point except for getting into college. The only class I was learning anything in was Calculus (AP Physics and "Economics" were a joke).
Then I got into college. Woo-hoo, it's full of archetypal So-Cal partiers who just talk like this: "Hahaha, chyeeeeahhh duuuude, I got like, so like, wasted last night." It's a f***ing prep-fest, just like my high school. Not only that, but it's not really very challenging either. Well, actually, they kind of "challenge" you, but not in a good way. Most of how they challenge you is by hiding information. Uhh, I thought I came to school to "learn". Then my writing classes were kind of hard, but that's because I hardly learned to write in K-12. Seriously, I think I had to write 6 papers the whole time I was in high school. Each of them were 2 pages long (compared to 5 in my college writing classes).
I'm doing kind of poorly in my Computer Science class right now, because the professor is an incompetent dickwad. I keep telling him that I need him to HELP me with the god damn concepts, but he seriously flat-out REFUSES. Instead he just keeps making me do stupid sh** like going to "Academic Learning Services" to learn how to study or something. Then he tells me to read the book, which doesn't help. It doesn't have examples that are anything like what we're supposed to be programming. Not only that, but I can almost never learn from books. I have to see an example to get an idea. Oh, and the other day, he sends me an e-mail pretty much saying "I'm worried about you struggling on the last 2 assignments, I think you should go to the Office of Disability Services". Then he pretty much blames me for not getting anything done, because he somehow thinks that he's "helped" me. Haha, what a joke. He doesn't know I have AS, but I'm not going to go to any "Disability Office". It's like he's trying to make excuses not to help me. He also won't even take a look at anything I do unless I write down the 'pseudocode'. But I don't even know where to start, so I can't write anything down! I responded to his stupid e-mail, and told him what I'm having trouble with, and pretty much said that I usually need to be guided along briefly before I can learn the concept. I'm figuring that if my concerns are written out in front of him, he might actually bother to read them and take them into consideration. If not, though, I'm probably going to pay someone in my class to help me.
Then there was the crappy grad student who taught my Intermediate Macroeconomic Theory class (that I got a C- in, because he sucked), but I won't get started on him, because I'm too tired.
I can see why so many smart people are disenchanted with the system. It's so much rubbish. The people suck, the teachers can really suck (which is bad, because you're virtually at their mercy). The system is horribly ineffective and doesn't teach you much. In college, they make you take all these stupid "Gen Ed" classes, which are just a waste of time and money. My best friend and I are actually thinking about writing a book that's just a large critique on the education system as a whole. |
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Airborne
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Joined: Nov 08, 2008
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Location: United States Of America
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| Posted: Sat Nov 29, 2008 12:53 pm Post subject: |
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| Cyanide wrote: | Oh man, I've always hated school. Before I entered elementary school, I was so god damn eager to learn. I was looking forward to this great experience that would intellectually stimulate me while obtaining a ton of information. Well, it pretty much turned out to be the opposite. I'm a sophomore in college now, and sometime in between then and now, that spirit died. Then it was pissed on, burnt, pissed on again, and thrown in a garbage can.
Back in elementary school, though, my only real complaint was that school wasn't nearly as challenging as I wanted it to be. In first grade, only me and one other kid knew how to read. Yeah, we got to read with some old lady in the back of the classroom while all the other kids were learning "sounds", but Jeff (the other kid) and I both could have read much harder books than what they gave us. Then in 4th grade, I remember we spent about 2 months on long division. Jesus Christ, if I've never seen a bigger waste of time... Me and about 4 or 5 others were so beyond what they were teaching us, but they had us stuffed into a box. I've always been kind of resentful because of that...
The social problems really didn't arise until I hit middle school. I was bullied for those entire 3 years. Then 99% of the people who didn't bully me just treated me like sh**. People would try to slam my locker door on my head, call me "Fag" every single god damn day in the hallways. I could hardly stand it. It was such a hostile environment.
When I got to high school though, there wasn't so much outward bullying. Everyone just ignored and ostracized me instead. I remember that in most of my classes, I'd be the only one without any friends. I used to be in the IHS program, which meant that for my core classes, I was with the same people for 2 1/2 years (I dropped out in the middle of junior year). I didn't even have a "table" at lunch until senior year. By that point, all school was for me was "Go to class, sit down for 80 minutes, leave, repeat." I felt like a hollow shell at that point. It didn't feel like going to school really had any point except for getting into college. The only class I was learning anything in was Calculus (AP Physics and "Economics" were a joke).
Then I got into college. Woo-hoo, it's full of archetypal So-Cal partiers who just talk like this: "Hahaha, chyeeeeahhh duuuude, I got like, so like, wasted last night." It's a f***ing prep-fest, just like my high school. Not only that, but it's not really very challenging either. Well, actually, they kind of "challenge" you, but not in a good way. Most of how they challenge you is by hiding information. Uhh, I thought I came to school to "learn". Then my writing classes were kind of hard, but that's because I hardly learned to write in K-12. Seriously, I think I had to write 6 papers the whole time I was in high school. Each of them were 2 pages long (compared to 5 in my college writing classes).
I'm doing kind of poorly in my Computer Science class right now, because the professor is an incompetent dickwad. I keep telling him that I need him to HELP me with the god damn concepts, but he seriously flat-out REFUSES. Instead he just keeps making me do stupid sh** like going to "Academic Learning Services" to learn how to study or something. Then he tells me to read the book, which doesn't help. It doesn't have examples that are anything like what we're supposed to be programming. Not only that, but I can almost never learn from books. I have to see an example to get an idea. Oh, and the other day, he sends me an e-mail pretty much saying "I'm worried about you struggling on the last 2 assignments, I think you should go to the Office of Disability Services". Then he pretty much blames me for not getting anything done, because he somehow thinks that he's "helped" me. Haha, what a joke. He doesn't know I have AS, but I'm not going to go to any "Disability Office". It's like he's trying to make excuses not to help me. He also won't even take a look at anything I do unless I write down the 'pseudocode'. But I don't even know where to start, so I can't write anything down! I responded to his stupid e-mail, and told him what I'm having trouble with, and pretty much said that I usually need to be guided along briefly before I can learn the concept. I'm figuring that if my concerns are written out in front of him, he might actually bother to read them and take them into consideration. If not, though, I'm probably going to pay someone in my class to help me.
Then there was the crappy grad student who taught my Intermediate Macroeconomic Theory class (that I got a C- in, because he sucked), but I won't get started on him, because I'm too tired.
I can see why so many smart people are disenchanted with the system. It's so much rubbish. The people suck, the teachers can really suck (which is bad, because you're virtually at their mercy). The system is horribly ineffective and doesn't teach you much. In college, they make you take all these stupid "Gen Ed" classes, which are just a waste of time and money. My best friend and I are actually thinking about writing a book that's just a large critique on the education system as a whole. |
Haha thats kinda how I viewed elementary school too.... Science and "Reading" Class were like eating cake, I had a 109 average in science as I already knew everything about how electricity flows and all that jazz as well as knowing the table of elements completely, reading are stupid ELA and IOWA test I scored almost off the charts on vocab and reading. Math on the other hand...I am terrible at math TERRIBLE i hate it so much. |
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AWPerative
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| School basically engineered my persona, but not in the way that they wanted. But all in all, I don't hate school, but I don't exactly love it. I met some of the best people I know in school, but I also met some of the people I really despise in school as well. |
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Nutterbug
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Approach your teachers and say to them loud and clear at the start of every class "I DON'T WANT TO BE HERE."
Will they kick you out for it? If they do, will your parents give you sh** for it? It wouldn't give them the moral high ground to take a stand against honesty like that, would it?
I wish schools would take a strict "If you don't want to be here, we don't want you here" stand on non-compulsory students, even if they are forced to go by their parents. |
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Garrett
Blue Jay
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Location: florida.
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School, you speak words of evil.
*Draws a cross, on my body.*
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EnigmaticPhilosophy
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Age: 22
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Location: Los Angeles, California
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School has GREATLY contributed to my strong hatred and distrust of people. Seriously, the sh** I had to endure as a child/teenager has caused me to despise (with a burning passion) just about everyone except my family and the few good friends that I do have. And because of all that I went through, I either socialize on my own terms, or not at all.
People suck.
And my research into AS/history/politics/human nature has only made me hate people even more than I already did before my diagnosis.
Throughout most of my time in school, I was teased, bullied, ignored, ostracized, humiliated from time to time, treated like an idiot from time to time, had to put up with incompetent teachers as well as poorly-run school administrations - and I was generally just sh** upon by students and staff alike in more ways than one. I barely learned anything until I was put into the nonpublic schooling system (for all the good it did me - at least I have my diploma). The American education system as a whole is nothing but a f**king joke.
The United States REALLY needs to take a few hints from other countries in order to improve its own shitty education system.
With that said, I am truly thankful that my parents decided to homeschool my three siblings - they're MUCH better off now than I was at their age. And screw the 'lack of socialization' aspect - the vast majority of people are simply not worth dealing with anyhow. And whatever social skills my siblings need to learn, will likely be taught to them by my parents. Hopefully their journey to an education won't turn them into bitter, cynical and hateful monsters like me. |
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cubedemon6073
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| EnigmaticPhilosophy wrote: | School has GREATLY contributed to my strong hatred and distrust of people. Seriously, the sh** I had to endure as a child/teenager has caused me to despise (with a burning passion) just about everyone except my family and the few good friends that I do have. And because of all that I went through, I either socialize on my own terms, or not at all.
People suck.
And my research into AS/history/politics/human nature has only made me hate people even more than I already did before my diagnosis.
Throughout most of my time in school, I was teased, bullied, ignored, ostracized, humiliated from time to time, treated like an idiot from time to time, had to put up with incompetent teachers as well as poorly-run school administrations - and I was generally just sh** upon by students and staff alike in more ways than one. I barely learned anything until I was put into the nonpublic schooling system (for all the good it did me - at least I have my diploma). The American education system as a whole is nothing but a f**king joke.
The United States REALLY needs to take a few hints from other countries in order to improve its own shitty education system.
With that said, I am truly thankful that my parents decided to homeschool my three siblings - they're MUCH better off now than I was at their age. And screw the 'lack of socialization' aspect - the vast majority of people are simply not worth dealing with anyhow. And whatever social skills my siblings need to learn, will likely be taught to them by my parents. Hopefully their journey to an education won't turn them into bitter, cynical and hateful monsters like me. |
EnigmaticPhilosophy
I am with you on this. I want to be able to socialize on my own terms but I don't think NTs understand me when I speak. My fiance says I use too many big words towards people and I like to keep talking about the same thing for a long time. The problem is is that I can go into depth about that one thing that most NTs cannot. To me, NTs talk about nothing. They talk about stuff that to me seems pointless and irrelevent. I mean you can't even keep your hand in a certain way that is comfortable to you or they think you're a retard. This tells me they do not look beyond the surface of things.
I really am ready to withdraw from society myself and just to most of my socialization online and mainly with you guys. |
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roadGames
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| I really enjoy learning about things in my major and actually like what I'm studying enough to want to pursue graduate studies in my field. However, I think the entire post-secondary education system needs to be revised in the states. For one, many gen ed courses need to go. Taking 4 semesters of academic Spanish (I call it 'academic Spanish' because you will get laughed at if you speak with native speakers in the archaic way they taught you Spanish) is a total waste of money and only serves as something to keep the foreign language teaching assistants occupied. What I'd do is replace a fair amount of the gen ed credits with credits within your major much like Brown does. What's even worse is when the gen ed professors take their courses seriously when it's obvious that the students really don't give a sh**. |
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Huskywolf
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I definitely hate school-always have. Most people I hear about who like school seem to like it because they can talk to friends. Since I don't have any, I can't even enjoy that. I have a lot of rants about school but I'll save most of them for later, but here are a few.
One of them is that my school focuses far too much on group work. I can't learn that way-I'll get things done much faster on my own and I'm too scared to even try to interact with others if I'm not given any warning a few days ahead or so (and even then, I usually can't). In one class I got a low grade because I did not ask questions aloud during class or participate in the discussions. WTF? If I score high on tests, pay attention during class, and do good on the homework why should that matter? And people already think I'm stupid-I don't want to ask dumb questions just for the sake of asking questions in front of the entire class.
Another thing that happened kinda recently...well, I suck at English since I'm horrible at writing essays (and on the very rare occasion I'm actually interested in the topic enough to be inspired, the teachers don't like my writing style so I lose points) I don't usually do well in English unless I have a lot of time and can write at home. Well, one day I got a big surprise when my English teacher (who hates me because I "talk rudely" to her even though I'm usually just frustrated and not intending to be rude) was actually impressed by this essay I wrote (which I was really surprised about). I was feeling pretty good about that, until the teacher, because it was "such a good example of an essay" made me read the damn thing in front of the class! I mean...the one time I do something right, and she basically punishes me for it. From then on I tried to make my essays bland and not outstanding, but not bad either. I'd rather get a B or C then have to do that again.
I think that I am fairly smart, but in some classes the teachers don't teach in a way I can learn well. I don't know why, but I absolutely can not take notes if the teacher's just talking. I have no idea what to write down and by the time I write a few words I've forgotten the rest of the sentence because my teacher has said something else. I need things written on the chalkboard to take notes. Also, when taking notes from books, I really have no idea what's important or what's not. I can read the entire chapter, but I can never figure out what parts of it I'm supposed to memorize.
I'm also mildly annoyed with the fact that I really don't get tired until 3 AM (IF that) and I can't force myself to sleep earlier. At least I'm able to do my homework at night-I can't do it during the day because of all the noise my siblings and their friends (who are at our house all the freaking time!) make during the day. I do homework best when I'm alone, in the quiet, and in the dark (with only dim lighting). That's why it annoys me when I tell a teacher I didn't understand something in the homework and they tell me I could have called another student and asked them. Like I know anyone's phone number! And I doubt they'd be pleased with me calling them at midnight on a school night, and most of them treat me like I'm an idiot who needs to learn really slowly anyways. I'm not an idiot, I can learn very quickly if things are explained to me well!
So yes...this is my rant. I'll post more later-it's a good way to let out some frustration. |
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gina-ghettoprincess
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I really don't get tired until 3 AM
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This isn't the key point of your rant, but OMG, me too! On non-schoolnights, I get up at noon and go to bed at around three am, cos I like being the only person awake in the house. Plus that's when good stuff is on TV.
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Huskywolf
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| gina-ghettoprincess wrote: | | Huskywolf wrote: |
I really don't get tired until 3 AM
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This isn't the key point of your rant, but OMG, me too! On non-schoolnights, I get up at noon and go to bed at around three am, cos I like being the only person awake in the house. Plus that's when good stuff is on TV. |
Yeah that's the same with me-I love being awake at night because the house is quiet and there's no one around-I can draw or write stories with no one to disturb me.  |
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gina-ghettoprincess
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| Huskywolf wrote: | | gina-ghettoprincess wrote: | | Huskywolf wrote: |
I really don't get tired until 3 AM
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This isn't the key point of your rant, but OMG, me too! On non-schoolnights, I get up at noon and go to bed at around three am, cos I like being the only person awake in the house. Plus that's when good stuff is on TV. |
Yeah that's the same with me-I love being awake at night because the house is quiet and there's no one around-I can draw or write stories with no one to disturb me. |
Yeah, it's cool. People say I waste my life sleeping the mornings away, but I make up for that at night, and that's the BEST time!
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cubedemon6073
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| gina-ghettoprincess wrote: | | Huskywolf wrote: | | gina-ghettoprincess wrote: | | Huskywolf wrote: |
I really don't get tired until 3 AM
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This isn't the key point of your rant, but OMG, me too! On non-schoolnights, I get up at noon and go to bed at around three am, cos I like being the only person awake in the house. Plus that's when good stuff is on TV. |
Yeah that's the same with me-I love being awake at night because the house is quiet and there's no one around-I can draw or write stories with no one to disturb me. |
Yeah, it's cool. People say I waste my life sleeping the mornings away, but I make up for that at night, and that's the BEST time! |
Gina, I agree with you night time is the best time. |
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TheEvolutionOfLife
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WE HATE SCHOOL!!!!
WE HATE SCHOOL!!!!
WE HATE SCHOOL!!!!
WE HATE SCHOOL!!!!
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