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What browser do you use?
Internet Explorer
6%
 6%  [ 6 ]
Firefox
68%
 68%  [ 60 ]
Opera
14%
 14%  [ 13 ]
Safari
6%
 6%  [ 6 ]
SeaMonkey
2%
 2%  [ 2 ]
Konqueror
1%
 1%  [ 1 ]
Camino
0%
 0%  [ 0 ]
Amaya
0%
 0%  [ 0 ]
Lynx
0%
 0%  [ 0 ]
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LostInEmulation
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PostPosted: Tue May 13, 2008 3:11 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Compiku wrote:

I always have a hard time not taking it personally when someone puts down the OS X font smoothing, which is one of my main reasons for choosing Safari. It's like they're implying that I have bad taste in text rendering.

Seriously, though, I don't understand why so many people hate the rendering. There's a bunch of people on the internet who want Safari for Windows to use ClearType. Why? Talk about blurry text! Apple did the right thing by including the OS X font smoothing.


For me it is because the characters all seem to have a colored outline, just as if you look though thick lenses. Also, the contrasts are all wrong and different letters are differently colored. This makes text harder to read for me. But I guess this is a matter of taste.
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PostPosted: Tue May 13, 2008 2:25 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

LostInEmulation wrote:

For me it is because the characters all seem to have a colored outline, just as if you look though thick lenses. Also, the contrasts are all wrong and different letters are differently colored. This makes text harder to read for me. But I guess this is a matter of taste.


Well...a matter of taste, and a matter of "the text looks different on each person's computer." On my display, I have the exact opposite: Windows' native ClearType appears to have a colored outline, and Safari' rendering looks very clear and crisp to me.
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PostPosted: Tue May 13, 2008 9:06 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Ya, so, umm... I use seamonkey, and I see someone else does to.

I sometimes use firefox, galeon, and opera. It depends, I guess
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PostPosted: Wed May 14, 2008 3:14 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Ah Dokken! We must exchange hints on the beauties (and occasional uglinesses) of SeaMonkey.
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PostPosted: Wed May 14, 2008 6:50 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

For a while, the "fuzzy" apple fonts annoyed me too, but once I had read a sizable amount of text using it, I realized how beneficial they are - the whole point is to reduce eye strain and such, not to be aesthetically pleasing (surprisingly unlike most apple UI features)

So they may not look the best, but they fulfill their function.

Also, subpixel rendering really does work best on LCD monitors or similar - the benefit on, say, CRT's is less.
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PostPosted: Thu May 15, 2008 2:48 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I think fuzzy fonts are harder to read since high contrast is a big part of readability!
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PostPosted: Wed Jun 18, 2008 12:49 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Firefox all the way!
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PostPosted: Wed Jun 18, 2008 1:00 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I've run through several. I'm on a Mac, so started out with Safari, then later switched to Firefox. THen I found out Mozilla had Camino, AKA Firefox for Macs. Used that for quite a while. Tonight I downloaded Opera, and I'm already hooked. Opera pwns all others, including Firefox 3.

Opera FTW!
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PostPosted: Wed Jun 18, 2008 5:41 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Ah... but no free AdBlock for Opera, so, pretty as it is, I can't be bothered with it. I'll stick with my SeaMonkey + loads of useful extensions.
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PostPosted: Wed Jun 18, 2008 8:14 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Haven't had any ads popping up so far. What's Seamonkey?
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PostPosted: Thu Jun 19, 2008 10:09 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

pakled wrote:
I have to use Internet Exploder at work, but that's not a choice...Wink


You can run it off a flash drive; the Sandick Cruzers have Firefox either pre-installed or available as something you can easily d/l from the site

I would run firefox off my external hard drive when at places; I copied the installed files to my exHD; runs rine everytime. Only ha a little stuff lke asking for bookmarks and that's it
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PostPosted: Wed Jul 02, 2008 10:55 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I use Mozilla Firefox. Dawn
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PostPosted: Thu Jul 03, 2008 5:26 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Okay, so the other night I downloaded Camino and I'm using that and Firefox now.

Hahaha... when will it EVER END! wall duh help ... Safari, then Firefox, then Opera, now Camino... next... Seamonkey? Shocked

I've also done this with other programs...

Garageband... Audacity... Reaper... FairGame... Flip4Mac

ffmpeg... mactheripper... quicktime... downloader helper... WMV Player...

SuperDuper... Backup (mac)

Photoshop... Illustrator... Inkscape... GIMP... Blender

BlueJ... Python... Alice...

shaking geek

I just can't seem to stop downloading programs! They're taking over my life... well.. actually just my computer!

Maybe one day I'll be able to wean myself down to just one or two browsers... Rolling Eyes

Then maybe I'll tackle the rest of my bloat on my macbook! Poor little laptop... Sad
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PostPosted: Thu Jul 03, 2008 8:37 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I run Firefox as my main browser but I use W3C Amaya for what it is really meant to be used for.

It is more of a integrated browser/editor than a traditional browser. and I use it to edit HTML (particularly ugly machine generated HTML like what comes from OpenOffice or Microsoft Word)

I actually have a good reason for needing to do this. but it happens to be mainly a matter of supporting a particularly broken subsystem of a piece of software i support where someone decided to use HTML for something it was never meant to handle.
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PostPosted: Thu Jul 03, 2008 12:42 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

wsmac wrote:
Okay, so the other night I downloaded Camino and I'm using that and Firefox now.

Hahaha... when will it EVER END! wall duh help ... Safari, then Firefox, then Opera, now Camino... next... Seamonkey? Shocked

Ha, me too. Safari, Firefox, Camino, Opera, then back to Firefox, currently back on Safari.

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I just can't seem to stop downloading programs! They're taking over my life... well.. actually just my computer!

Maybe one day I'll be able to wean myself down to just one or two browsers... Rolling Eyes

Then maybe I'll tackle the rest of my bloat on my macbook! Poor little laptop... Sad

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Why don't you go download a livecd of Ubuntu for your Macbook? Wink
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