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Ticker
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It's unfair to the other people to keep a monster like that at the church. If a person can't control their behaviors and they harm others or disrupt public functions then they have absolutely no business being with other people. Purposely urinating in public is repulsive and disgusting. The boy shouldn't be taken out of his home if he is that bad. And quite blaming nasty behavior as being an autistic problem because he obviously has more wrong with him them autism to act like that.
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Giving it another thought, I see that the child is low-functioning, right? then very likely he would feel uncomfortable there, and the mother taking him to church is being HER responsability in that case, for everything that could happen, and well, is a low-functioning autistic person able to understand religion, in the first place?
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Yupa
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| Posted: Fri May 23, 2008 5:39 pm Post subject: Re: Autistic banned from Mass |
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| pinkiepie wrote: | I was watching CNN a few days ago, and I found some news that I thought might interest you:
A severely autistic 13-year old and his mom were banned from attending mass at their local church in Minnesota. The church's reason why they did what they did was that the boy was "disruptive and dangerous." Why? He fights, urinates, and almost knocked over children and elderly people. So they filed a restraining order against the boy and his mom so that none of those things would happen again.
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They didn't kick him out because he was autistic. They kicked him out because he did stupid, inappropriate stuff that everyone knows is wrong. |
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Spokane_Girl
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| Posted: Fri May 23, 2008 9:07 pm Post subject: |
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| greenblue wrote: | | Giving it another thought, I see that the child is low-functioning, right? then very likely he would feel uncomfortable there, and the mother taking him to church is being HER responsability in that case, for everything that could happen, and well, is a low-functioning autistic person able to understand religion, in the first place? |
Maybe. LFA isn't mental retardation who are autistic.
They have normal IQ's too or above normal but they just can't take care of themselves very well because they struggle with self help skills. Incontinence is common in LFA. Droopy and Amanda Baggs are en example of what LFA is. Droopy was the one who showed me LFA's aren't mentally retarded just by watching her videos on youtube. Yes there are some LFA's out there who are retarded. I have heard some people with autism also have mental retardation or people with mental retardation also have autism. |
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CockneyRebel
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| Posted: Sun May 25, 2008 1:49 pm Post subject: |
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| Spokane_Girl wrote: | | greenblue wrote: | | Giving it another thought, I see that the child is low-functioning, right? then very likely he would feel uncomfortable there, and the mother taking him to church is being HER responsability in that case, for everything that could happen, and well, is a low-functioning autistic person able to understand religion, in the first place? |
Maybe. LFA isn't mental retardation who are autistic.
They have normal IQ's too or above normal but they just can't take care of themselves very well because they struggle with self help skills. Incontinence is common in LFA. Droopy and Amanda Baggs are en example of what LFA is. Droopy was the one who showed me LFA's aren't mentally retarded just by watching her videos on youtube. Yes there are some LFA's out there who are retarded. I have heard some people with autism also have mental retardation or people with mental retardation also have autism. |
Take a look at Sue Ruben, for example. She tested as mentally retarded, until she started using a keyboard to speak. After she learned to use the keyboard, she tested with an IQ of 136.
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CockneyRebel
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| Posted: Sun May 25, 2008 1:53 pm Post subject: |
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| Ticker wrote: | | It's unfair to the other people to keep a monster like that at the church. If a person can't control their behaviors and they harm others or disrupt public functions then they have absolutely no business being with other people. Purposely urinating in public is repulsive and disgusting. The boy shouldn't be taken out of his home if he is that bad. And quite blaming nasty behavior as being an autistic problem because he obviously has more wrong with him them autism to act like that. |
It's one thing if a person can't help such incontinence issues to the point of needing Depend's. From what I was reading, this boy was wetting himself on purpose, so that he wouldn't have to stay at the church. Those are two different things, all together. He didn't do it, all the time. Only when he was angry.
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Everchanging
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| It'll be better for him in the long run not to be exposed to that mind-rotting filth. |
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CRACK
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| Posted: Sun May 25, 2008 2:47 pm Post subject: |
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| I say: good for them for kicking out an obviously problematic individual rather than going limp-**** just because he is mentally handicapped. It isn't fair for the other churchgoers. |
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greenblue
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| Posted: Sun May 25, 2008 4:17 pm Post subject: |
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| Spokane_Girl wrote: | | greenblue wrote: | | Giving it another thought, I see that the child is low-functioning, right? then very likely he would feel uncomfortable there, and the mother taking him to church is being HER responsability in that case, for everything that could happen, and well, is a low-functioning autistic person able to understand religion, in the first place? |
Maybe. LFA isn't mental retardation who are autistic.
They have normal IQ's too or above normal but they just can't take care of themselves very well because they struggle with self help skills. Incontinence is common in LFA. Droopy and Amanda Baggs are en example of what LFA is. Droopy was the one who showed me LFA's aren't mentally retarded just by watching her videos on youtube. Yes there are some LFA's out there who are retarded. I have heard some people with autism also have mental retardation or people with mental retardation also have autism. |
well, I didn't imply that was mental retardation, just that it seemed very likely that going to church and doing all the stuff they do there, would not make any sense for him, I mean, it must have something to do with social skills and stuff NTs take for granted, and understanding the concept of why people do this, and likely he would rather just do the things that he likes, alone. I hardly understand why people go the church 
Probably he was being forced to go there because of the mother's beliefs, he seems unhappy there. It would have been better to bring the church to home, in a matter of speaking. Although, he probably wouldn't care or even like that.
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Yupa
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| Posted: Sun May 25, 2008 5:23 pm Post subject: |
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| greenblue wrote: | I hardly understand why people go the church
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For comfort and meaning. |
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preludeman
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| Posted: Sun May 25, 2008 10:27 pm Post subject: My Two Cents. |
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And some of you wonder why I do not tell people in my church I have AS. I am not disruptive, yet it is bigoted for any faith to do this. They need to find the "root cause" , and try to help him.
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Spokane_Girl
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Going to church isn't an NT thing. It's a religious thing. Not all god believers go to church either. My boyfriend for example and my parents.
And preludeman, the church didn't bann him because he's autistic, they banned him because he was disruptive.
I had read an article on this and it said the mother said his behavior was exaggerated or lies. So who knows what he really did. My opinion stays the same if all that is really true about him and the mother was just saying that in self defense. |
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Pandora
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It might have been somewhat better if this lad and his mum could have sat right up the back of the church so if he started to get agitated, he could have been taken outside.
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ToadOfSteel
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| Everchanging wrote: | | It'll be better for him in the long run not to be exposed to that mind-rotting filth. |
If what you say is true, then my brain must be rotten down to the stem. Except, uh, it isn't... |
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