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| I think the view in option #1 raises some good issues, but SOME people take it too far |
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| I think the view in option #1 raises some good issues, but MANY people take it too far |
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Shadowgirl Phoenix


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Orwell Outer Party Member


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I don't care about preserving racial purity- I tend to regard group racial classifications as lacking much use in dealing with people. My white uncle married a Cambodian and so far has three children with her. Another aunt and uncle adopted several black children. Growing up it never really occurred to me that there was anything strange about that- a few of my cousins happened to be black, and a few others were Asian, what was the big deal? _________________ WAR IS PEACE
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timeisdead Phoenix


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Posted: Sun Jun 07, 2009 11:09 pm Post subject: |
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| Orwell wrote: | | timeisdead wrote: | | What do you define as racist? I for one am not too fond of inner city crime or illegal immigration. |
Inner city crime is not a result of race- whites raised in the inner city will be thugs too. Illegal immigration similarly is not so much a racial problem as an economic one. |
Why is it that urban areas were much less crime ridden prior to the 1960s? Especially cities such as Detroit? Why is it that most illegals happen to come from Mexico? It may not be caused by race but there is a definite correlation.
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ruveyn Phoenix


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| MattShizzle wrote: | | There are very few if any people who are "pure" white/black/asian whatever. Nearly everyone almost certainly has someone of a different race in their background (it wasn't all that uncommon for a light skin black person to pass for white.) |
We are all mutts.
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techstepgenr8tion that chatty American


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| Just voted and saw the poll results - scary. |
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ruveyn Phoenix


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| techstepgenr8tion wrote: | | Just voted and saw the poll results - scary. |
Why?
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Orwell Outer Party Member


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Posted: Sun Jun 07, 2009 11:20 pm Post subject: |
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| timeisdead wrote: | | Why is it that urban areas were much less crime ridden prior to the 1960s? Especially cities such as Detroit? Why is it that most illegals happen to come from Mexico? It may not be caused by race but there is a definite correlation. |
Is crime up? I think that's largely a popular myth, but I could be wrong. I'm too lazy to go check the numbers. Most illegals come from Mexico because Mexico is a shithole and Canada isn't, and those are the only two places where we would realistically be getting illegals from because of their geographic proximity. _________________ WAR IS PEACE
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techstepgenr8tion that chatty American


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Posted: Sun Jun 07, 2009 11:26 pm Post subject: |
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| ruveyn wrote: |
Why?
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I don't understand if its maybe a semantic issue or just general knee-jerk bias but... can people understand that if you talk about extinction of any race and relegation to the textbooks that it would be an absolute tragedy regarding preservation of cultural history and diversity in our species? I tend to think of the human species I guess a bit higher than the White Sands movie-watching fly. Sure, its debatable regarding the degree of likelihood that a white race simply be bred out of existence, my logic is that as technology and western economics grabs a hold of the third world they'll all be having 2.2 kids as well quite likely as economic self-interest will compel it. So, unlikely perhaps but thinking or talking about it = racist? Unless its a semantic hang-up I have to wonder if they aren't putting those grubs from Wrath of Khan in people's ears when they go off to college. |
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timeisdead Phoenix


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Posted: Sun Jun 07, 2009 11:48 pm Post subject: |
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| Orwell wrote: | | timeisdead wrote: | | Why is it that urban areas were much less crime ridden prior to the 1960s? Especially cities such as Detroit? Why is it that most illegals happen to come from Mexico? It may not be caused by race but there is a definite correlation. |
Is crime up? I think that's largely a popular myth, but I could be wrong. I'm too lazy to go check the numbers. Most illegals come from Mexico because Mexico is a shithole and Canada isn't, and those are the only two places where we would realistically be getting illegals from because of their geographic proximity. |
It's incredibly difficult not to feel enraged when I see the deterioration and decay of American cities. It's hard for me not to think about the revenue and jobs we are losing due to illegal immigration as well as the overcrowding of American prisons.
Shouldn't our cities be taken well care of? Shouldn't American cities be booming centers of tourism and industry as opposed to hellholes laden with crime and decay? Shouldn't urban inhabitants show some respect for the cities they live in?
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Orwell Outer Party Member


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Posted: Mon Jun 08, 2009 1:06 am Post subject: |
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| timeisdead wrote: | | It's incredibly difficult not to feel enraged when I see the deterioration and decay of American cities. |
People have been bitching about that sort of thing since the dawn of recorded history. Is it actually worse now?
| Quote: | | It's hard for me not to think about the revenue and jobs we are losing due to illegal immigration as well as the overcrowding of American prisons. |
Immigration is not bad for us, and can be beneficial in many ways. I would rather we liberalized our immigration policies to induce more people to enter legally rather than illegally.
Anyways, I don't see how either of those are racial issues. Mexicans aren't coming here because they want to overwhelm the white race, they're coming here because Mexico sucks and they are seeking a new beginning in the land of opportunity. And our urban centers aren't in a state of decay because of inferior blacks, they're crapholes for economic reasons. _________________ WAR IS PEACE
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Keith Guarding my post here


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Posted: Mon Jun 08, 2009 2:25 am Post subject: |
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You could probably look at race further than just "colour"
There's language, country, region. If you wanted to get an example of region, take football as an example. The UK has so many riots (not as many now) with clashing teams after a game, claiming theirs is better |
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Henriksson Procrastination Embodied


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Posted: Mon Jun 08, 2009 9:55 am Post subject: |
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Oh my... what if there were no tongue-rollers eventually? What if there were only non-tongue rollers? It's horrible to even think about it...  _________________ "Purity is for drinking water, not people" - Gospel of the Flying Spaghetti Monster.
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Posted: Mon Jun 08, 2009 9:57 am Post subject: |
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| It's a myth that we are losing jobs to illegals - they are mostly jobs Americans won't do. Even if we could get Americans to do them we'd have to pay more. Do you want to pay 12 bucks for a head of lettuce at the grocery store? |
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Wait I think I made a mistake when I posted in this thread.
I have aspergers not autism. _________________
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| Brusilov is the main espouser of far-right ideology here. You're mainly remembering the highly negative and mistaking it for common (in psychology, this is known as the availability heuristic). |
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